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12-21-2007, 08:16 PM
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You know I really need to go remit my dirty laundry .... I got bags of clothes to remit.
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12-21-2007, 08:16 PM
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Cathostolics vs. Bapticostals ... Friday night smack down on AFF!!!
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Sorry, Bro Elpey, I've gotta go. Have fun! 
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12-21-2007, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
WHO is a three-stepper?????????????????????
Dan & Fudge has you confused?????????????????????????
I have NEVER preached 3 steps another strawman. I don't know if I ever heard anyone preach 3 steps. And I only remember reading one tract that said that.
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Rev Devito, I speak in common AFF language - accepted by liberals and conservatives alike.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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12-21-2007, 08:18 PM
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SE please show me where ALL NT baptisms were done by "preachers"..then while at it, define preachers using scriptures....
Then define layman using scriptures....the problem is it's not there. There is no special class division in scriptures of preachers/laymen (have nots)
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Every place a baptism is recorded a preacher was involved in Acts.
The command to baptize was given to preachers. Mt. 28:19
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12-21-2007, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Every place a baptism is recorded a preacher was involved in Acts.
The command to baptize was given to preachers. Mt. 28:19
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And they better be male or if not .... you just got wet and are lost as two boys kissing.
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12-21-2007, 08:19 PM
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Rev Devito, I speak in common AFF language - accepted by liberals and conservatives alike.
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NOT accepted by this conservative I refuse to give Fudge the right to label me.
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12-21-2007, 08:19 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
"Because of" is used because many of the sacramentalists understand "eis" to be a causal "for" ...
There are many authorities that support that eis is a resultant for ... hence why Aquila is using because of...
The best translation for "eis" ... and supported by most translators is .... "with a view towards" ...
We are baptized with a view towards the work of the Lamb at Calvary that remits our sin.
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"for" is a perfectly grammatical translation and that is coming from people that don't believe baptism is essential.
Dan you say most translators support "with a view towards"...can you prove that?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-21-2007, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
And they better be male or if not .... you just got wet and are lost as two boys kissing.
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I guess you have a passage where a woman baptized?
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12-21-2007, 08:20 PM
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If remission (forgiveness of sins) doesn't take place until water baptism...how did Cornelius' household, me, and countless others receive the Holy Ghost before our sins were forgiven???
Perhaps someone should have spoke up and said, "Now God, these guys are not forgiven until I dunk 'em."
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12-21-2007, 08:20 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Every place a baptism is recorded a preacher was involved in Acts.
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how do you know? YOu are just saying that. Was Stephan a preacher? Where is the word preacher used?
Where does the bible distinguish between preachers and laypersons?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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