Where are all the Acts 2:38 folks (3-steppers)?? - Page 39

TRFrance · #**381** 12-27-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

You better cause the following remarks of yours don't settle so well with me.
Fair warning and all. I'll deal with it in a bit.

Fair warning and all.

Oh yeah!!??!!
Well I only have one thing to say then...
BRING IT ON!!!

BoredOutOfMyMind · #**382** 12-27-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll

This would be amazing to accomplish. I think these forums have been established to this very thing. However...

There has risen a segment that posts louder, longer, more frequently than others that are magnets for tearing down foundations of Apostolic beliefs. One, for an example, being this universal salvation, or all inclusiveness, or just believing or whatever you want ot call it...

Debating the greasy gracers has been fun in the past...but this new (well, not new, but paganism dressed in new high heels and a new miniskirt) heresy makes greasy grace about as greasy as a pork chop left in the grill overnight. When these people change the word of God in their arguments, there is nothing to debate.

No one has forced the more established posters out. They have left of their own accord. It is no longer fun when the spirit of the majority of posters turns into a witch hunt against those who believe strong ethics and holiness standards.

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Originally Posted by Ferd

Jekyll, I believe there is a way to regain some balance here. I have faith in the Admin that they are doing just that.

having known Matt for a while here online, I seriously dobut this thread was an after thought.

lets see how this plays out.

Balance? With a diverse group like the Admin are?

I sure hope so.

Barb · #**383** 12-27-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

I wish I had found FCF much sooner.

Me too...

TRFrance · #**384** 12-27-2007, 04:15 PM

You said a lot in your post, most of which I wont even bother to touch, for a variety of reasons.. but one thing I want to comment on.

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Or it is at simply complying with a teacher telling you to go through Acts 2:38?

I am not talking about Peter as the teacher.

I am talking about alter workers instructing folks on the art of speaking in tongues.

I have never seen or known of any Apostolic church instructing people on "the art of speaking in tongues". I cant say it's never happened. But if you've been in the UPC 40+ years as you say, you already know that that would be an aberration, and not normal UPC teaching or practice.

I think its intellectually dishonest to bring that to the debate when you must already know that "instructing folks on the art of speaking in tongues" is strongly frowned upon in UPC churches. (If anything, that practice is much more prevalent in charismatic churches than apostolic.)

I could think of some wacky things I've heard of someone doing in a PCI church, but if I were to bring that up as being a reason I disagree with PCI doctrine, that wouldn't be fair or reasonable now, would it ?

Jekyll · #**385** 12-27-2007, 04:17 PM

Well, come on now, guys, PCI vs. PAJC has been and will be around since the 20th century and will go on until Jesus comes...that debate will rage to the end of AFF

BoredOutOfMyMind · #**386** 12-27-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

I have never seen or known of any Apostolic church instructing people on "the art of speaking in tongues". I cant say it's never happened. But if you've been in the UPC 40+ years as you say, you already know that that would be an aberration, and not normal UPC teaching or practice.

I have been in some Charismatic churches that did teach such things. I have not actually heard this argument in a few years. I agree with you that those who are True Apostolic reject such a move as mockery.

Neck · #**387** 12-27-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

You said a lot in your post, most of which I wont even bother to touch, for a variety of reasons.. but one thing I want to comment on.

I have never seen or known of any Apostolic church instructing people on "the art of speaking in tongues". I cant say it's never happened. But if you've been in the UPC 40+ years as you say, you already know that that would be an aberration, and not normal UPC teaching or practice.

I think its intellectually dishonest to bring that to the debate when you must already know that "instructing folks on the art of speaking in tongues" is strongly frowned upon in UPC churches. (If anything, that practice is much more prevalent in charismatic churches than apostolic.)

I could think of some wacky things I've heard of someone doing in a PCI church, but if I were to bring that up as being a reason I disagree with PCI doctrine, that wouldn't be fair or reasonable now, would it ?

I do not know what rock you crawled out from under.

When I received the Holy Ghost at Mark Hanby's church in 1976 at 11 years old.

His bible school students were instructing me how to speak in tongues.

My dad was a teacher at the school his teaching was on the Oneness.

When Mark Hanby watched as they tried to instruct me on how to speak in tongues.

He told them to step aside and layed his hands on me as the spirit of the Lord fell on me.

I was a member from childhood in some of the largest churches in the UPCI.

Until early 2007.

Everyone of them had alter workers who would tell folks how to speak in tongues.

My neighbor today got scared off at the large UPCI church that I attended in Oak Creek, Wi for 27 years.

I am not dishonest for sharing my 43 years of "real" experience in some of the largest churches in Oneness.

Again you did not stop at the Cross in your response....

BoredOutOfMyMind · #**388** 12-27-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll

Well, come on now, guys, PCI vs. PAJC has been and will be around since the 20th century and will go on until Jesus comes...that debate will rage to the end of AFF

Does leaning to the PCI side condone acceptance of "Light Doctrine" or "Universal Salvation?" My lands, some who have abandoned all holiness and baptize in the Trinity still promote FULL Salvation. We have this huge segment who seem to totally abandon the requirement for Baptism in both Water and Spirit. Felicity has affirmed she is not one of the same.

Neck · #**389** 12-27-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Does leaning to the PCI side condone acceptance of "Light Doctrine" or "Universal Salvation?" My lands, some who have abandoned all holiness and baptize in the Trinity still promote FULL Salvation. We have this huge segment who seem to totally abandon the requirement for Baptism in both Water and Spirit. Felicity has affirmed she is not one of the same.

I am not as well.

BoredOutOfMyMind · #**390** 12-27-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt

I do not know what rock you crawled out from under.

When I received the Holy Ghost at Mark Hanby's church in 1976 at 11 years old.

His bible school students were instructing me how to speak in tongues.

My dad was a teacher at the school his teaching was on the Oneness.

When Mark Hanby watched as they tried to instruct me on how to speak in tongues.

He told them to step aside and layed his hands on me as the spirit of the Lord fell on me.

I was a member from childhood in some of the largest churches in the UPCI.

Until early 2007.

Everyone of them had alter workers who would tell folks how to speak in tongues.

My neighbor today got scared off at the large UPCI church that I attended in Oak Creek, Wi for 27 years.

I am not dishonest for sharing my 43 years of "real" experience in some of the largest churches in Oneness.

Again you did not stop at the Cross in your response....

Do you really take what happenned in that church as a cross section of the whole of the UPC?