Where are all the Acts 2:38 folks (3-steppers)??

[Apprehended]

...and I agree with my Oklahoma redneck country boy friend about 90% of what he said above. I suppose the 10% is not worth fussing over, except of course, he does ot believe that Jesus forgives sin of ALL who come to him in sincerity, contrition and confession.

Originally Posted by Apprehended

...and I agree with my Oklahoma redneck country boy friend about 90% of what he said above. I suppose the 10% is not worth fussing over, except of course, he does ot believe that Jesus forgives sin of ALL who come to him in sincerity, contrition and confession.

Not true... and I think you know that ... I believe he is Faithful and Just to forgive the confessed sins... whether in a Wesleyan Pentecostal altar call or a Baptist invitation. I do, however, see forgiveness and remission as two separate indications in scripture. I realize that others do not. Again, I am responsible for what I see in the Word of God and I will endeavor to preach and teach the same.

As a side note, I think one of the reasons we have such a high attrition rate among new converts is that we have DE-emphasized the importance and the power of heart felt, fully realized repentance. While I understand that HE forgives in an instant, there is more to repentance than repeating a sinner's prayer... specifically the accepting of forgiveness by the pentitent. I don't see folks these days feeling the awful, heavy weight of their sin. As a result they don't have a full realization of what the shed blood of Jesus at Calvary's cross accomplished for them and seems easy to walk away from.

Anyway... just more of my ramblings. Lord, what has happened to Godly Sorrow?

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't know

You don't know if Acts 2:38 is necessary for Salvation or not? LOL Am I on a Bible believing forum? LOL

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by philjones

Not true... and I think you know that ... I believe he is Faithful and Just to forgive the confessed sins... whether in a Wesleyan Pentecostal altar call or a Baptist invitation. I do, however, see forgiveness and remission as two separate indications in scripture. I realize that others do not. Again, I am responsible for what I see in the Word of God and I will endeavor to preach and teach the same.

As a side note, I think one of the reasons we have such a high attrition rate among new converts is that we have DE-emphasized the importance and the power of heart felt, fully realized repentance. While I understand that HE forgives in an instant, there is more to repentance than repeating a sinner's prayer... specifically the accepting of forgiveness by the pentitent. I don't see folks these days feeling the awful, heavy weight of their sin. As a result they don't have a full realization of what the shed blood of Jesus at Calvary's cross accomplished for them and seems easy to walk away from.

Anyway... just more of my ramblings. Lord, what has happened to Godly Sorrow?

Here's a question for ya bro...what's the Greek word for "remission" in Acts 2:38...and what does it mean?

[ChristopherHall]

I don't care who says what, when, where, why, or how they say it...if one doesn't obey Acts 2:38 they're not saved.

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I don't care who says what, when, where, why, or how they say it...if one doesn't obey Acts 2:38 they're not saved.

I would say this:

If one doesn't obey Jesus, they are not saved.
There is so much more to the Lord than one verse, don't you think?

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Walkbyfaith7

I would say this:

If one doesn't obey Jesus, they are not saved.
There is so much more to the Lord than one verse, don't you think?

But isn't the "much more" inclusive of that verse?

Originally Posted by RevDWW

But isn't the "much more" inclusive of that verse?

My point is that the Lord said you need to obey everything that proceeds out of the mouth of God-not just one isolated verse.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Walkbyfaith7

My point is that the Lord said you need to obey everything that proceeds out of the mouth of God-not just one isolated verse.

Except you repent ye shall perish...
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved
If any man have not the Spirit....



Oh and

Judas Hanged Himself

Go ye and do likewise.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Walkbyfaith7

I would say this:

If one doesn't obey Jesus, they are not saved.
There is so much more to the Lord than one verse, don't you think?

Oh boy! Yes, I believe so.

Millions of precious people who gave their lives loving Jesus shedding their own blood as martyrs, died with the glory of the Lord in their faces are then going to hell if you are right.

After the Bolshevicks deposed the Czars in the earlier part of the20th century, Christians began suffering a great deal of persecution. I remember the story that one Russian soldier told his companions watching christians die who refused to renounce their faith in Jesus.

Some soldiers were ordered to take a group of christians toforce march them naked through the snow to a prison in Siberia. The soldiers told the christinas that if they would renounce Jesus that they could have a horse to ride on, warm clothes and shoes. The christians refused to renounce. As they marched naked, one by one they started falling in the snow to die.

The soldier witnessed as the christians die in the snow, there was an angel nearby that lifted them up and place a robe around each of them and gave them a crown on their heads. The soldier became so convicted that he began confessing his own faith in Jesus. He dismounted his horse, undressed himself telling his companions, "I want that robe and I want that crown."

My! My! The stony hearts and lack of faith manifested by so many of my own bretheren who hold to their rigid theology is superceded only by the hardness of their spirit.

Sorry, I do not serve the same Jesus that some do. Millions will be there in heaven when I get there who died, giving their life for Jesus who never ever heard of your theology or their one verse creeds.