My current pastor believes that women should have uncut hair. I don't know if he's ok with it or not, but if my hair bothered him that bad, then he's got more problems than I have.
I'm sure my next pastor feels the same, but again, if he has a problem with my hair, the same applies to him.
I would rather focus on what's more important.
There is another reason why I keep mine like I do, but there are those who would feel I'm just making excuses. If they only knew........
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My current pastor believes that women should have uncut hair. I don't know if he's ok with it or not, but if my hair bothered him that bad, then he's got more problems than I have.
I'm sure my next pastor feels the same, but again, if he has a problem with my hair, the same applies to him.
I would rather focus on what's more important.
There is another reason why I keep mine like I do, but there are those who would feel I'm just making excuses. If they only knew........
If that is the teaching of your church and pastor and you refuse to obey, you don't feel you are in rebellion ?
don't you know that is the mainstream teaching in the UPC ???
why be apart of a church that basically believes you are lost ?
why do you believe it's okay to cut your hair ?? what about I cor 11 ?
If that is the teaching of your church and pastor and you refuse to obey, you don't feel you are in rebellion ?
don't you know that is the mainstream teaching in the UPC ???
why be apart of a church that basically believes you are lost ?
why do you believe it's okay to cut your hair ?? what about I cor 11 ?
I don't feel I'm in rebellion, no. He's never told me not to cut my hair. If he does, he'll have to show scripture for telling me that, but I'm not worried....he'd never say anything to me about it, even by implication over the pulpit.
I am aware that it's part of the mainstream teaching, as I was raised in the UPC. I don't believe my pastor sees me as lost for cutting my hair. I've never felt that from him at all.
I don't see any Biblical teaching against women cutting their hair, therefore, I am able to make my own decision concerning what's on my body. I used to believe and 'preach' the doctrine, and did so even on the internet for a couple years until someone challenged me to actually read what I was quoting....come to find out, nothing I was saying was in the Bible as I claimed.
I had to do a lot of soul searching at that point, and also did a lot of studying. Around this time, I was introduced to the GNC and learned a lot there. I soon became a member of FCF and learned even more. I continue to learn, but so far, the teaching I was raised with concerning hair have I ever found anywhere in the Bible, even though my pastor said it was there. I found out a lot of things he claimed were in there really aren't.
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I don't feel I'm in rebellion, no. He's never told me not to cut my hair. If he does, he'll have to show scripture for telling me that, but I'm not worried....he'd never say anything to me about it, even by implication over the pulpit.
I am aware that it's part of the mainstream teaching, as I was raised in the UPC. I don't believe my pastor sees me as lost for cutting my hair. I've never felt that from him at all.
I don't see any Biblical teaching against women cutting their hair, therefore, I am able to make my own decision concerning what's on my body. I used to believe and 'preach' the doctrine, and did so even on the internet for a couple years until someone challenged me to actually read what I was quoting....come to find out, nothing I was saying was in the Bible as I claimed.
I had to do a lot of soul searching at that point, and also did a lot of studying. Around this time, I was introduced to the GNC and learned a lot there. I soon became a member of FCF and learned even more. I continue to learn, but so far, the teaching I was raised with concerning hair have I ever found anywhere in the Bible, even though my pastor said it was there. I found out a lot of things he claimed were in there really aren't.
Let's just set the hair Issue a side for just a second-Don't you think that somethings we have to do out of obedience even if we don't understand it ? God told noah to build an ark. I'm sure noah wasn't given every detail and all the reasons but he did it out of obedience. same thing with Abraham when he took his son to be sacrificed. I believe we are called to trust and obey. we may not always understand all the "Whys" however we often come to an understanding years later. I remember growing up and asking my dad WHY WHY WHY to everything!! it use to drive him nuts ! many things I thought I was smarter and wiser. now of course , as a grown man i see HE was right even though he sometime told to Shut up and just DO IT ! lol
Does your pastor have to come right out and tell you personally not to do it even though you said your pastor said it was in the word ? Do you have more trust in your private interputations and internet friends then the spiritual leader that is over you ???
how did you come to the conclusion that Cutting your hair was alright after believing for so long that it was wrong? If it's okay for a woman to have short hair then I assume that is okay for a Man to have long hair No? the bible says it's a shame for a man to have long hair and that the woman's hair is her glory. so if he created male and female it's obvious that he has distinguished a difference don't you think?
look at the recent incident with Britney spears. even the world Knew that it was not natural for her to shave her hair off. now I'm not saying that is what you and other women do but you do not believe it is against God. I believe it's also against nature
Let's just set the hair Issue a side for just a second-Don't you think that somethings we have to do out of obedience even if we don't understand it ? God told noah to build an ark. I'm sure noah wasn't given every detail and all the reasons but he did it out of obedience. same thing with Abraham when he took his son to be sacrificed. I believe we are called to trust and obey. we may not always understand all the "Whys" however we often come to an understanding years later. I remember growing up and asking my dad WHY WHY WHY to everything!! it use to drive him nuts ! many things I thought I was smarter and wiser. now of course , as a grown man i see HE was right even though he sometime told to Shut up and just DO IT ! lol
I understand what you are saying, but in the above examples, it was God telling them, not a man. If God were to tell me, I would obey.
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Does your pastor have to come right out and tell you personally not to do it even though you said your pastor said it was in the word ? Do you have more trust in your private interputations and internet friends then the spiritual leader that is over you ???
My pastor believes it's Bible, but has never preached it. I don't have more trust, but I do trust God over man. If man says God said it, then it will be in God's word.
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how did you come to the conclusion that Cutting your hair was alright after believing for so long that it was wrong?
Because I found out it wasn't in the Bible as I was taught for several years.
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If it's okay for a woman to have short hair then I assume that is okay for a Man to have long hair No?
Who said it was ok for women to have short hair? The Bible says nothing of short hair. Only says that women should have long hair, and men shouldn't have long hair. If long means uncut, what is opposite? Cut, right? Therefore, the opposite of long in that passage, according to uncut hair doctrine folks isn't short, but cut.
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the bible says it's a shame for a man to have long hair and that the woman's hair is her glory. so if he created male and female it's obvious that he has distinguished a difference don't you think?
So, tell me, based on my picture, would you or any other Christian man have my hairstyle, including length?
However, God never distinguished men and women by hair. God doesn't go against His word, so if men having long, even uncut hair was a sin, why the Nazarite vow, and where is the exception in scripture? This is why I believe Paul was speaking a cultural issue, not a universal one. Paul himself even had long hair at least once, post 'seeing the light'.
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look at the recent incident with Britney spears. even the world Knew that it was not natural for her to shave her hair off. now I'm not saying that is what you and other women do but you do not believe it is against God. I believe it's also against nature
Only in this culture. In some cultures, women shaving their heads is completely acceptable.
I once had my head shaved. I wore a bandanna or hat for about four months until it was long enough to perm. However, if I were a black woman, I would have been fine after about a month. Why? Because in their culture, nobody looks twice at a black woman with short hair, even extremely short. White women, yes. This is why people like Brittney get so much attention, yet Shari whatshername (it's late and I can't think) can have hardly any hair and nobody bats an eye.
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Thad, let me ask you a question. If your pastor suddenly preached that you had to wear a suit coat at all times in all seasons, would you do it? I mean, this is something he's preaching to all the men, not just those on the platform, and also claiming that it's Bible and using a scripture to back him up.
Let's say that your pastor says that in accordance to 1 Cor 11, all men had to keep their heads shorn (cut very close, like a sheep) or shaven, would you? Would all men in your church comply just because the preacher said so?
Just asking......
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Thad, let me ask you a question. If your pastor suddenly preached that you had to wear a suit coat at all times in all seasons, would you do it? I mean, this is something he's preaching to all the men, not just those on the platform, and also claiming that it's Bible and using a scripture to back him up.
Let's say that your pastor says that in accordance to 1 Cor 11, all men had to keep their heads shorn (cut very close, like a sheep) or shaven, would you? Would all men in your church comply just because the preacher said so?
Just asking......
I'm planning to start a hair thread this week sometime so I'm going to save my comments for later plus it's getting so late my mind is going fuzzy on me.
as far as my pastor requiring me to wear a coat in all seasons ?? and having scriptures to back it ?? there are none ! there is nothing remotley close to such a rule in the bible whereas with the hair it is address by the apostle Paul who instructs as that is a shame unto God for a woman to have cut hair or shaved hair.
the bible requires our reasonable service- wearing a coat in 110 degree desert heat is naturally unreasonable whereas adhering to St Paul's instructions that a woman's hair is given for her glory is out of the bible God's holy word.
I want to discuss this hair issue further because it is one that I have never really deleved into
I'm planning to start a hair thread this week sometime so I'm going to save my comments for later plus it's getting so late my mind is going fuzzy on me.
as far as my pastor requiring me to wear a coat in all seasons ?? and having scriptures to back it ?? there are none ! there is nothing remotley close to such a rule in the bible whereas with the hair it is address by the apostle Paul who instructs as that is a shame unto God for a woman to have cut hair or shaved hair.
the bible requires our reasonable service- wearing a coat in 110 degree desert heat is naturally unreasonable whereas adhering to St Paul's instructions that a woman's hair is given for her glory is out of the bible God's holy word.
I want to discuss this hair issue further because it is one that I have never really deleved into
Thad, I'll await your hair thread, but just wanted to point out that the bolded part above isn't scripture. It's what people are taught that scripture says, but you won't find it there, I promise you.
Paul says IF it be a shame, let her be covered. Never says that a woman shouldn't cut her hair. Never says it's a shame to have cut hair.
However, your pastor tells you to wear a suit coat at all times, and uses a scripture to back his claim. You read the scripture and say 'that doesn't say what he says it's saying at all'. That's how I feel about 'the hair chapter'. It doesn't say what others say it's saying at all.
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Hair: the last time a pair of scissors touched my hair was when I was about 8 and had to cut out a wad of chewing gum! My long, uncut hair is my glory. Why would I want to cut my glory off?
Makeup - non colored lip gloss, chapstick. .I don't feel there is anything wrong with some powder for blemishes, although I don't use it too often.
Attire: nylons - rarely. I hate them. When I do wear them, they are either ivory, white or jet black. Sleeves range from midway between shoulder and elbow, to the wrist. If I raise my hand and you can see my armpit or more, then they are too short and/or baggy. Skirts - knee length to ankles (I have all lengths in between). Slits are okay as long as they don't go above the knee. No pants at all. . .ok, I do wear sweats when I am lounging around the house or going to bed!
Jewelry - wedding ring. I have a few watches but always forget to put them on so they collect dust in a box on my dresser.
I have kept the same standards that I was taught to know and love. Some things may not be salvational, and I know that, but why take the chance? And if my Pastor asks it of me or requires it and I refuse to comply, well then I think that's called rebellion and that definately is salvational. I have no problem following these standards. . . .
even though he sometime told to Shut up and just DO IT ! lol 
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