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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
One is baptized in Jesus name by the authority and power he gave when he commissioned his apostles in Matthew given to Him by the Father.
There is no evidence that the verbalization of a proper name by a third party or the believer validates or nullifies the baptism.
You cannot provide any examples of a baptism that was performed in this way either ... Yet it's the cornerstone to your salvational doctrine.
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I just find it odd that there are
no verses stating that _______ baptized himself, or where any apostle that I know of instructed unbelievers to "baptize themselves."
It always says they "were baptized." If I wash my face, it would sound weird for someone to say "she was washed" or "her face was washed" rather than "she washed her face." The grammar used does imply a third party at least assisting. Furthermore, why did John baptize Jesus, rather than Jesus setting an example and baptizing Himself?
And what about the eunuch? The Bible says, "...he baptized
him."
Acts 8:38 "And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him."
I Corinthians 1:16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
I'm surprised that you seem to be agreeing with Joelel, at least about the third party, because it is obvious that John the Baptist and the apostles baptized people. Or are you just agreeing with the part about not needing someone else to call on the Lord for you?
Also, I looked up "calling" [on the name of the Lord], and here is what Strong's says:
epikaleomai
ep-ee-kal-eh'-om-ahee
Middle voice from G1909 and G2564;
to entitle; by implication to invoke (for aid, worship, testimony, decision, etc.): - appeal (unto), call (on, upon), surname.
I also looked up the other two words referenced in the definition, and they are:
epi
ep-ee'
A primary preposition
properly meaning superimposition (of time, place, order, etc.), as a relation of distribution [with the genitive case], that is, over, upon, etc.; of rest (with the dative case) at, on, etc.; of direction (with the accusative case) towards, upon, etc.: - about (the times), above, after, against, among, as long as (touching), at, beside, X have charge of, (be-, [where-]) fore, in (a place, as much as, the time of, -to), (because) of, (up-) on (behalf of) over, (by, for) the space of, through (-out), (un-) to (-ward), with. In compounds it retains essentially the same import, at, upon, etc. (literally or figuratively).
and,
kaleō
kal-eh'-o
Akin to the base of G2753;
to “call” (properly aloud, but used in a variety of applications, directly or otherwise): - bid, call (forth), (whose, whose sur-) name (was [called]).
It certainly appears that, taken in context and all related definitions that it means "invoked over aloud."
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