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Originally Posted by Joelel
What makes people think you must hold them or touch them ?
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To answer your question with another question ...
What makes you think we should
not touch them or hold them? Do you have scripture that says we
should not touch or hold the person being baptized?
(Thats just a rhetorical question though. No answer needed)
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Originally Posted by Joelel
I said in an other post also,if you took them to the water and called on the name of the Lord as we are suppose to do with them and they jumped in the water,you would be baptizing them.What makes people think you must hold them or touch them ?
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1..Because your idea is speculative and not supported by scripture, thats why.
You have no biblical examples of anyone every doing it the way you're describing. Not one.
2.. Since
A... the Greek word baptizo means to dip, or immerse, and
B... Since
Acts 2:38 and other similar NT scriptures have the Greek word in the passive voice, which
means the act is performed by someone else (as I explained previously in post #92 ) ....then obviously it refers to someone else doing the dipping/immersing of the baptized person.
The concept here is fairly simple: If you took them to the water and they jumped in
they would still be baptizing themselves.
I cant explain it any clearer. If you want to get into speculative ideas about people jumping into water to baptize themselves, then feel free.
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