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Old 03-26-2008, 07:17 PM
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Fact is God created all creation after it's own kind and all creation brought forth after it's own kind. A black never brought forth a white or any other or any other way around.

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[11] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
[12] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[21] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Joel, you are proving that you are very ignorant when it comes to biology let alone scripture. Races of blacks, whites and asian are all of the SAME kind...that is the HUMAN kind. This is WHY Joel and black person can have sex with a white person and have children. If what you were saying is true they would NOT be able to mate.
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BTW the hebrew word for man in Genesis 1:26 is ....YELP! ADAM!
Same Hebrew word for Adam in Gen 2.3 and 4.

Adam was the FIRST MAN Joel...yet your take has him being the second man made after those on day 6

Gen 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

This proves once and for all Joel that Gen 1:26 was when Adam was created. Gen 2 is an elaboration of day 6


1Co 15:45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

The obvious fact is....to everyone but Joel, is that Joel has NO scripture to back up his assertion. He has only his fanciful opinion.

Adam was named "Adam" because HE was the first human being

She was named EVE because she was the mother of all the living

Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.

Obviously not talking about animals but other humans like her for God said they all beget after THEIR OWN KIND.
Adam was the first man created and was placed in the garden.All the others created was not placed in the garden.This is a history of the Sons of God not all other creation of men.
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:18 PM
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Look,it seperates the 8 sons of God from the other 2 of each race sons of man.
There was Noah, his three sons and their wives...it NEVER mentions other races or sons of man. You are adding to the word
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:20 PM
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Scripture, please.
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No scripture needed,think about it. Sons of God would be the ones from the garden that walked and talked to God.Sons of man would be ones who didn't walk and talk to God.Get it Sons of God and sons of man.
LOL...Joel says this over and over "once again no scripture" and then insists he does not need to post scriptures...Well folks you all know what that means
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:23 PM
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You got me there.All brought forth after it's own kind but it don't say man did.Maybe the writter was more focused on all the other things involved with man.Maybe not ?

Gen.1:[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
[28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
[29] And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
[30] And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so
Again of blacks, whites and asians were not the same kind they could NEVER reproduce with each other
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All races came from Shem, Ham and Japheth.

Egypt was called the land of Ham. He and his family went down there and repopulated the area we now call Africa
Psa 105:23 Then Israel came to Egypt; Jacob sojourned in the land of Ham.

Gen 9:17 God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant that I have established between me and all flesh that is on the earth."
Gen 9:18 The sons of Noah who went forth from the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. (Ham was the father of Canaan.)
Gen 9:19 These three were the sons of Noah, and from these the people of the whole earth were dispersed.

All the earth came from the three sons of Noah, not from others on the ark joel.

Also note too it was AFTER the flood that God confused their languages and they all went their different directions to form the races. This makes sense the most since certain traits found within a single family would become dominant over time
And Shem, Ham and Japheth got their wives from where ? The other race of people on the Ark.
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Where did Cain get a wife and the people to start building a city ? Adam and Eve didn't have more children until after Cain knew his wife and built a city.Gen.4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Genesis 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew
Already answered for the third time.

Second just because Genesis gives Cain's geneology before giving Adam and Eves or Seths or anyone elses does not mean that is in chronological order
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:27 PM
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And Shem, Ham and Japheth got their wives from where ? The other race of people on the Ark.
LOL...then Joel WHO were the 8 sons of God put INTO the ark? Hmmm? Noah, Shem, Ham and Japheth and then who? Can't be the other racists...er races because you said they are not sons of God...

The 8 were Noah and his wife. Ham and his wife. Shem and his wife and Japheth and HIS wife...8

They were already married before hand. Not ONE verse says there were other races or sons of men as opposed to sons of God on the ark. You are making this stuff all up
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Oh really,no proof of other people ? Who was all these other people that might find him.At this time only Cain and Abel had been born.
It is very simple Joel...the OTHER people are the other children Cain knew his parents would have.
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Joel, you are proving that you are very ignorant when it comes to biology let alone scripture. Races of blacks, whites and asian are all of the SAME kind...that is the HUMAN kind. This is WHY Joel and black person can have sex with a white person and have children. If what you were saying is true they would NOT be able to mate.
So,All kind of dogs can mate,all kind of horses can mate.A bull dog didn't come from a poodle ot Shepard.
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