My 1st thread / Apostolic Language?

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Awe - yes. I wanted to be clear that the Father and the Son are the one same person of God.

Having said that, however, I do not believe Jesus, the Son of God, was his own Father...

The very definitions of Father and Son prevent the mixing of the terms.

The Father is God as He relates to creation, and to His only begotten Son, apart from, and outside of, the incarnation.

The Son is God in and through the incarnation.

To mix the terms is to do injustice to scripture and in some cases promotes a skewed Christology.

So while Jesus, the Son of God, was divine and God himself, it is improper IMHO, to say He is His own Father.


I cannot in good conscience sing the song you referenced... "I know Jesus is the Father..."

Even though I know and understand Jesus is God Almighty.

Steve,
I am preparing to move away from this topic for a while because it can be very upsetting to folks, but I can not leave your post without commenting that it reads to me as something that is quite CIRCULAR.

I appreciate that you are open to consider the dilemnas or even the inconsistencies that may be at work in the way classical oneness teachers present who the Son of God is, but I can not help but read your post as someone who wants to acknowledge something but can not, for whatever reason.

To say:
"The very definitions of Father and Son prevent the mixing of the terms."
and
"So while Jesus, the Son of God, was divine and God himself, it is improper IMHO, to say He is His own Father."

Is a stream of thinking that contradicts itself. At this point, I think you are very close to throwing your hands up in the air and calling it a mystery.