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Old 05-21-2008, 10:20 AM
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How about if one married a Woman who had been the Adulteress in a marriage but down the road was born again? Do you or anyone else believe God counts the old life against them? Or is it as if they had never sinned?
God forgives all sin before or after conversion. Read Romans.

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Old 05-22-2008, 07:34 AM
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Good morning,

I just wanted to say that I have been bothered by my first post on this thread because when you forgive someone then you do not continually bring it up. I had no intention of hurting my ex-husband with the post but it was inappropriate as I forgave him in 2002.

Please forgive me for bringing it up. True forgiveness keeps no record of wrongs. For anyone who was offended by reading it - please forgive me.

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Old 05-22-2008, 09:01 PM
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Re: Is the UPC a Den of Incest (Growth Within)?

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THANK YOU!!!!!



And just for the record, yes, that is exactly what the no-fault divorce did, enable lazy people to get out marriages they were tired of, easily...

OR, it enabled women who were trapped in horrible marriages with no financial means of hiring an attorney to fight out protracted he said/she said divorces, a way to get out of abusive situations and get on with/save their lives.

It is really all a matter of perspective, and unless you have ever lived through any of these situations, perhaps it is unwise to spout off your opinion about it...
What rot. Am I required to experienced an abortion before I may express my opinion about it? How about affirmative action? Are only blacks allowed to express their opinions? This form of reasoning leads down a dangerous path.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:16 PM
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you obviously have never lived through this. I am sure there are some fathers who are held accountible through the system. I can give you a total different story and many others I know... I know countless single mothers that have to fight for every dime they get and most of their ex's money is hid through/with girlfriends or new wives.

My ex husband spent 1 year in work release center for non child support... our county is considered one of the toughest counties in this State on Child Support... I have proof of every support payment ever paid... less than $4K of child support on three kids over the last six years. The County let him live in a work release facility and pay me only $20 a week while he faithfully supported and put a roof over his girlfriend.. while she sat at home doing nothing.

You really have absolutely no clue... and no, he wasn't underground. The majority of the last six years, he has lived within a mile of me... except for the times he's been incarcerated.
Well I see the point in your case. I mean, the guy got off scot-free, what with only a year in the slammer!

Hey I've said that it doesn't turn out well for the women in every case. The trouble here is that all we have is a few anecdotes, not any data. But I would not call what your ex experienced a lack of favor by the court. He was obviously ordered to pay an onerous amount of child support. When he decided to forfeit compliance, he forfeited freedom because the enforcement was not taken lightly. The justice system did not turn its back on you in your time of need. You are in the unenviable position of experiencing the collision of your expectations with his irresponsibility.

My heart goes out to you. Keep the faith.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:28 PM
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Good morning,

I just wanted to say that I have been bothered by my first post on this thread because when you forgive someone then you do not continually bring it up. I had no intention of hurting my ex-husband with the post but it was inappropriate as I forgave him in 2002.

Please forgive me for bringing it up. True forgiveness keeps no record of wrongs. For anyone who was offended by reading it - please forgive me.

Blessings,
Rhoni
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It's not easy, is it?
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:22 PM
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Re: Is the UPC a Den of Incest?

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Well I see the point in your case. I mean, the guy got off scot-free, what with only a year in the slammer!

Hey I've said that it doesn't turn out well for the women in every case. The trouble here is that all we have is a few anecdotes, not any data. But I would not call what your ex experienced a lack of favor by the court. He was obviously ordered to pay an onerous amount of child support. When he decided to forfeit compliance, he forfeited freedom because the enforcement was not taken lightly. The justice system did not turn its back on you in your time of need. You are in the unenviable position of experiencing the collision of your expectations with his irresponsibility.

My heart goes out to you. Keep the faith.
The "slammer" was the newly built work release center 1 block from my house... he had to be in by 8p.m. and was let out at 6am.. he spent part of that time at home... he basically just slept there... whew..tough system. He worked for my brother in law making the very least $800 a week bring home pay.. I saw the pay stubs.

$200 a week for three kids... 10,11 and 12 at the time.... not onerous... I received the majority of child support during the six months that he attempted to get back in church. My ex has spent most of his money on drugs over the last six years.. a habit that has put him behind bars (real prison) for possibly the rest of his life for car theft and robbing six banks.

I didn't sue him for child support, the govt did... they had to provide me with food help until I was able to get a job where I didn't have to depend on the goverment for help.

Now, sometime later... his new wife divorced him... she is long gone. I send him money every month... People think I am crazy... but there is absolutely no one who has anything to do with him. He might not have treated his family right, but I could never treat him the same way.
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$200 a week for three kids... 10,11 and 12 at the time.... not onerous... I received the majority of child support during the six months that he attempted to get back in church. My ex has spent most of his money on drugs over the last six years.. a habit that has put him behind bars (real prison) for possibly the rest of his life for car theft and robbing six banks..
Wow! I did not know...
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Wow! I did not know...
He did a year in a min security and got out June 07 for theft.. I tried to help him, he came to live at our house while he got on his feet. The addiction was just too great, he stole my sister's car and went on a two week crime spree.. it was sad. I try to visit once a month and I just cry buckets of tears because of what he is facing. It just tears me up. Sin will totally destroy a person's life
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He did a year in a min security and got out June 07 for theft.. I tried to help him, he came to live at our house while he got on his feet. The addiction was just too great, he stole my sister's car and went on a two week crime spree.. it was sad. I try to visit once a month and I just cry buckets of tears because of what he is facing. It just tears me up. Sin will totally destroy a person's life
I am so sorry Lisa. Sorry for him - but even more for you. God bless you!
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Joelel if looking at porn is automatically adultery, and adultery is biblical grounds for divorce. Then every man who looks at porn, his wife has grounds for divorce without him actually taking any action?
That's right it is grounds for divorce.If we are joined to a harlot we are one. That makes both a harlot and if a person is married to a harlot that makes Jesus a harlot because we are also joined to Jesus. If a person is married to a harlot, you must divorce him or her unless the person repents and stays repented.

1 Cor.6:15: Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of a harlot? God forbid. 16: What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17: But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18: Flee fornication. (Adultery) Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that commiteth fornication (adultery) sinneth against his own body.
19: What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20: For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
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