It's Either You or Me

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Never mind that little thing called free will.

It's like these people think God is going to override the will of some criminal. If He were that kind of God, why not override the perp's will before he breaks into my house in the first place? Why wait until he's standing in front of me with a gun in his hand?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ron

He would have to kill me first!

Nevertheless, I wouldn't put a bullet between his eyes.

How about a baseball bat, or the lamp, or the phone? How far are you willing to go?

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Rico

If you really wanted to help me, you'd make me a deal on one of them guns you have, preferably a shotgun. I don't have one now. When can I expect a phone call or email with a price?

It's incredible how you are trying to use the example of martyrs to justify not protecting our families. My guess is if some nut were to break into your house and take one step towards your wife you'd do everything in your power to stop him, including taking him out if that's what it took.

IF I had a shot gun, which I do NOT, YOU (and some more liberal AFF potential sinner killers), would be the last one(s) I would sell it to.

Don't want to be a party to that.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Great idea for a new crime fighter series you can go out and try it, let me know how that works out for ya.

Never mind that little thing called free will.

I have seen it at work.

I have also seen a big guy filled with not one, but many devils walk into Church with a fury in his eyes.
He tried to curse and swear but was all bound up.
He then tried to spit, but because of the power of God could only make a little kid spit that dribbled down his chin.

in talking with him he got delivered of spirits of addiction, which he wanted delivery from, but when it came to the spirits of witchcraft, he didn't want to let go of that, because he enjoyed the power it gave him.

Sadly he left.

We never did feel threatened!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

IF I had a shot gun, which I do NOT, YOU (and some more liberal AFF potential sinner killers), would be the last one(s) I would sell it to.

Don't want to be a party to that.

Ok. Guess that means I can write you off the list as someone I could possibly buy a shot gun from.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rico

How about a baseball bat, or the lamp, or the phone? How far are you willing to go?

Rico, is your faith in Jesus that low?

I don't say that to mock you Brother, but to say a point.

Don't let fear drive us.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Ron

I have seen it at work.

I have also seen a big guy filled with not one, but many devils walk into Church with a fury in his eyes.
He tried to curse and swear but was all bound up.
He then tried to spit, but because of the power of God could only make a little kid spit that dribbled down his chin.

in talking with him he got delivered of spirits of addiction, which he wanted delivery from, but when it came to the spirits of witchcraft, he didn't want to let go of that, because he enjoyed the power it gave him.

Sadly he left.

We never did feel threatened!

Totally different scenario. Demons are one things man and free will a whole different animal.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ron

I have seen it at work.

I have also seen a big guy filled with not one, but many devils walk into Church with a fury in his eyes.
He tried to curse and swear but was all bound up.
He then tried to spit, but because of the power of God could only make a little kid spit that dribbled down his chin.

in talking with him he got delivered of spirits of addiction, which he wanted delivery from, but when it came to the spirits of witchcraft, he didn't want to let go of that, because he enjoyed the power it gave him.

Sadly he left.

We never did feel threatened!

I've seen stuff like that happen too. What does that have to do with someone standing over your bed in the middle of the night ready to send you to your Maker?

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Ron

Why not use the name of Jesus?

If it works against demons, won't it work against sinners?

Excellent advice for Spiritual folks, but it probably wouldn't work for some around here for the same reason it didn't work in Acts 19.



Acts 19:14 -16

14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.

15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
KJV

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Totally different scenario. Demons are one things man and free will a whole different animal.

Not really.
I have seen the name of Jesus stop people and to an extant override thier will!