It's Either You or Me

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rico

Then I would end up dying no matter what I did, Brother.

True!

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Ron

Now Bro that is low personal & uncalled for!
If you do not agree with his post-say so.

Don't attack OP in this way.

No your right its cool to refer to me as one of the sons of Sceva, but responding in kind is out of bounds. gimme a break.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ron

Now Bro that is low personal & uncalled for!
If you do not agree with his post-say so.

Don't attack OP in this way.

Spare me, Ron. OP has basically said we don't have the Holy Ghost. That is insulting.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

I have some very dear friends that are involved in both, I do not condemn their decision, but for me, I know that I could not do it.

So it's okay for her to ask this, but my question was irrelevant? Not fair - I'm telling.

Thanks for the compliment though!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ron

Then why not trust Jesus!

Who says I'm not?

[stmatthew]

Just to put this verse into a New Testament perspective.....


Matt 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.


THIS is what the old testament called for (eye for an eye)


Matt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


THIS is what Jesus calls his new testament church to (Love)


So I ask again, can one fulfill the scripture by loving their enemy, blessing the one cursing you, doing good to the one hating you, and praying for the one despitefully using and persecuting you.....................and at the same time blow them away with a shotgun??

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

No your right its cool to refer to me as one of the sons of Sceva, but responding in kind is out of bounds. gimme a break.

The seven sons of sceva had no power because they had no Holy Ghost.
Now if you have the Holy Ghost, you don't need a gun.

Trust Jesus or trusty Guns?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rico

Spare me, Ron. OP has basically said we don't have the Holy Ghost. That is insulting.

Again Rico, I don't see him as seeing that.
He is saying (I may stand corrected by him) that if we have the Holy Ghost we don't need to trust in guns.

That is the simple point.

Notice I did not say you can't own a gun.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Just to put this verse into a New Testament perspective.....


Matt 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.


THIS is what the old testament called for (eye for an eye)


Matt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


THIS is what Jesus calls his new testament church to (Love)


So I ask again, can one fulfill the scripture by loving their enemy, blessing the one cursing you, doing good to the one hating you, and praying for the one despitefully using and persecuting you.....................and at the same time blow them away with a shotgun??

Wrong that was not an eye for an eye. An eye for an eye was not a sadistic rule but rather set limits on what one was allowed to extract in terms of punishment. Jesus was telling the people that unless their righteousness exceeded that of the Scribes and Pharisees they had not obey the intent of the law. The Beatitudes is an example of how the Pharisees fell short of the law not a guide for how we live today.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rico

Who says I'm not?

Okay, with that in mind, you won't need to use a gun!

As far as me, I have only known the Lord for a little over 25 years.

In that time I have failed him--but not once has he failed me!