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Old 06-12-2008, 10:21 PM
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just because I defend my family doesnt mean that I HATE the person trying to harm them.when a cop responds to a crime and has to shoot someone he is just RESPONDING to a threat....its not a "Im blowing u away because I dont love u" thing.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:22 PM
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John 18:11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?
He said to put away not get rid of it.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:23 PM
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God even bears a sword:

Rev.2:12 To the angel of the church in Pergamum write:
These are the words of him who has the sharp, double-edged sword.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:23 PM
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He said to put away not get rid of it.
That's because they were having a fish fry the next day and needed that knife!
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:24 PM
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That's because they were having a fish fry the next day and needed that knife!
Not to mention slice some bread.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:24 PM
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just because I defend my family doesnt mean that I HATE the person trying to harm them.when a cop responds to a crime and has to shoot someone he is just RESPONDING to a threat....its not a "Im blowing u away because I dont love u" thing.

I don't know about that!

"This is a 357 Magnum the most powerful handgun in the world! In all this confusion I don't know if I shot 5 or 6.
Do you feel lucky, huh punk, do ya?
Make my day!"

I am sure Clint wanted to take him to an altar when he recited those lines!
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:25 PM
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You bring about a good point. Those against protecting their families bring up the 'love and hate' issue in regard to our enemies, but misunderstand that protecting oneself or their families has nothing to do with love and hate against the intruder.
If the only thing the verse said was "love your enemies", then I would concede that you are correct. But the verse goes on and speaks of how we demonstrate that love in blessing the one cursing you, doing good to the one hating you, and praying for the one despitefully using and persecuting you.
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Why did Jesus allow Peter to carry a sword? In addition, why did He tell people that if they didn't have a sword to sell their cloak and buy one? To clean their fish?


They were still under the Law, before Calvary and the birth of the Church where mankind would receive the Holy Ghost power that iis nvested in Jesus Name.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:31 PM
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They were still under the Law, before Calvary and the birth of the Church where mankind would receive the Holy Ghost power that iis nvested in Jesus Name.
2 Timothy 3:16
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:35 PM
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Exodus 22:2

"If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed;
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