It's Either You or Me - Page 47

stmatthew · #**461** 06-13-2008, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

Of course He is, but do you plan on dying for the sins of the world? Are you the Savior StMatt? No you're not, so climb down off of that cross that you're on and stop acting like you are.

Get real dude, I do not think I am anything. Get back on topic.

"Is an Apostolic Christian allowed to kill according to New Testament Scriptures?"

AbundantGrace · #**462** 06-13-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Get real dude, I do not think I am anything. Get back on topic.

"Is an Apostolic Christian allowed do kill according to New Testament Scriptures?"

Oh, I'm very real DUDE! Do you believe that Christ will protect you?

stmatthew · #**463** 06-13-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

Oh, I'm very real DUDE! Do you believe that Christ will protect you?

Yes, do you?

AbundantGrace · #**464** 06-13-2008, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Yes, do you?

Well, since He is our example and He will protect us, don't you think that we should follow His example and protect our families as well? After all, He is our example isn't He?

stmatthew · #**465** 06-13-2008, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

Well, since He is our example and He will protect us, don't you think that we should follow His example and protect our families as well? After all, He is our example isn't He?

You are correct. But I do not see scripturally where he will be coming to my defence packing guns.

Nice twist though. Now how about you answer the question asked?

"Is an Apostolic Christian allowed do kill according to New Testament Scriptures?"

Enjoy, its past my bedtime.

Rico · #**466** 06-13-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Give me a break.

OLD TESTAMENT

Ex 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

NEW TESTAMENT

Matt 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Matt 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Without a cause Matthew. Read what it says. Without a cause.

Rico · #**467** 06-13-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

You really need to go back and read this passage IN CONTEXT. It is speaking of the ministry, not the authority of this world. The sword is the Word of God.

Also, read on down in that chapter and you come to this....

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love [is] the fulfilling of the law.

Oh. Now you wanna argue context. When the scriptures were talking about dying for the cause of Christ it was ok to take them out of context.

rgcraig · #**468** 06-13-2008, 07:28 AM

Whoa, you guys are making me tired.

St. Matt you aren't getting much sleep these days!

DividedThigh · #**469** 06-13-2008, 08:21 AM

bottom line, when the bad people come, two choices you can pray , and surrender, or defend yourself, you decide, for you,not all others, dt

AbundantGrace · #**470** 06-13-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DividedThigh

bottom line, when the bad people come, two choices you can pray , and surrender, or defend yourself, you decide, for you,not all others, dt

You are so correct DT. That's why I'm gonna pray while I'm shooting! "Lord, carry this bullet to it's intended target and shut him down, because I don't want to have to throw the gun at him too!"