Jobs people should not be allowed to do?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Again, there are a good percentage of doctors that do not believe there ever is such a decision to be made.

If that was really the case, then we really wouldn't be having this conversation. There have been cases while the mother has died while attempting to give birth.

Fact is, there are couples who have to make such decisions.

If my doctor was to advise my wife and I of that being a real threat, then we would proceed to see what can be done to eliminate that threat.

I need to add, if my wife was convinced that she wanted to go through with the pregnancy, despite the grave danger, then after prayer and fasting, I'd let her take the lead on this. But I would fervently let my objections be known.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Personally, I could not make the choice to throw Grandpa overboard because he is in a wheelchair and percieved to be of lessor value than Grandma.

I think my Grandpa would roll himself off of a cliff if it was the ONLY way to save my Grandma's life.

Actually, he'd probably let me do it for him. It's not a thing of who has more value. it's a thing of love and selflessness.

[Jermyn Davidson]

My wife IS more important than my children (at least that will be my attitude once I am married).

[George]

Originally Posted by 1399

I see nothing wrong with being the prison executioner-- someone has to flip the switch!

Even I would have a conviction about being an underwear/swimwear model.

I'd like to add that Christians should not be:

*undercover cia agents (or anything along that line of work)
*tv sit-com or hollywood screen actors (for most shows and movies around today anyway)
*drug dealer
* any job that prevents any kind of Christian fellowship at long stretches of time.

Of course I have no issues with Christians killing other people in the context of war. However, I have never given thought (before just now) to the idea of, "What if the other guy taking my bullet or feeling the heat from my bombs is also, a Christian?"
But then again, he's trying to kill me so I kill him first-- in the context and only in the context of war can I really rationalize all of this.

I know a UPC licensed minister who is an undercover agent

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

If the "brat" is full term do you still consider it an amalgamation? And if so, why is your wife's life of more value in God's eyes?

Hey Cindy,
How are you this morning?

Once a full-term unborn child gravely threatens the life of my wife, it becomes an amalgamation of seed and egg. If it can be saved, so be it.

I am not sure if my wife's life is of more value than the full-term, unborn amalgamation-- in God's eyes.

In my eyes, my wife will be worth more than my children-- she always will be.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by George

I know a UPC licensed minister who is an undercover agent

Really?

I have a problem with level of deception I must go along with in order to do that job to the best of one's abilities. To this day, that's reason I can't be an Interrogator for the military-- I really don't like to practice lying.

If this minister can do so and it not bother his conscience, hey, go for it. It bothers mine though.

[Pro31:28]

Originally Posted by 1399

My wife IS more important than my children (at least that will be my attitude once I am married).

I was going to ask you if you had children. I assume this post answers that question.

I am going to let you in on a little secret in life. Before I had kids, I knew everything about raising them. I knew how I wanted my pregnancy and labor to go, I knew how I wanted them to act, I knew what my family situation would be, what I would allow, etc.

When they turned about 3, I knew exactly the kind of teenagers they would be, I knew what my rules would be and what we would and would not allow.

Let me just say, that NOTHING turns out exactly as you plan, My labors and deliveries were not what I expected, when they were 2 years old, they didnt look like the kids in the magazines, and now that one is about 15 and the other will be 11 next week, Nothinhg has gone "as planned". In some areas, I am more strict than I expected, and in others I have let the fences down a little. So much changes as they grow, But I digress....


The fact that you have no children makes your argument a bit hollow, because I highly doubt that once you have held 1399"jr" in your arms, you will ever consider him and almalgamation again.

Just a thought

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Pro31:28

The fact that you have no children makes your argument a bit hollow, because I highly doubt that once you have held 1399"jr" in your arms, you will ever consider him and almalgamation again.

Just a thought

Once 1399 jr is in my arms, he ceases to be just an amalgamation. But I will still love my wife more.

This isn't a hollow argument, it's a conviction of mine. Far too often, I've seen people make idols of their children.... I won't make one of my wife, but I will love her more and seek ways to make sure she and 1399jr know it.

Wife is more valuable to me than 1399 jr-- always will be.

[Pro31:28]

Originally Posted by 1399

Once 1399 jr is in my arms, he ceases to be just an amalgamation. But I will still love my wife more.

This isn't a hollow argument, it's a conviction of mine. Far too often, I've seen people make idols of their children.... I won't make one of my wife, but I will love her more and seek ways to make sure she and 1399jr know it.

Wife is more valuable to me than 1399 jr-- always will be.

And I agree, I have seen this phenomenon as well. All I am saying is that you cannot presume what you will feel if you haven't been there yet. I would like tothink that I would never put my parents in a nursing home, but I have seen many a good saint have to do it...
On the other hand, we have a family memeber with four children. In order for them to "get time together" this requires another family member to watch all four kids, many times twice a week, and often for an entire weekend two times a month. My husband and I had a talk with them and explained that dates are great, but until you start spending some of that "together" timw with your children too, you will wear out other family members and you foresake wonderful "together time" with the kids.

I do not idolize my children. They are a part of family, we are a unit. at some point they will separate from us (sniff.. sniff, at this moment my almost-15 year-old is on a plane to Budapest). My husband and I have a very strong marriage and we go away alone about twice a year. We often set up "dates" in our own house after the children have gone to bed, and we make it work. We'll be back on our own again, without the little munchkins before we know it (sniff... sniff)

Just a thought

[OP_Carl]

Now I've seen it ALL!

The defense of abortion, on a "Christian" web site, by a person who has no children and no facts.