Holiness for Children: Kingdom Kids Series

[Felicity]

I've never hear RR speak in person but I did get to watch an archived service where she was the speaker. She's a good speaker.

I was amazed to see several august men on the platform sit and nod and AMEN some of the things she was saying that as far as I was concerned were outside of scripture, and I'm not referring to the parts of her teaching on hair that I feel is unbiblical either. I was so surprised and a little amused as well with the "agreement" being expressed. I was thinking ....... "Good heavens! What's happened to these men's minds!" as I watched.

Well she is quite attractive after all .... and her teaching adds support to what many of these preachers are trying to achieve.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I've never hear RR speak in person but I did get to watch an archived service where she was the speaker. She's a good speaker.

Hum. If I put my irritation aside, I could probably agree....she's certainly much less abrasive than that youtube-speaker that was discussed here awhile back...can't remember her name...about men being stupid?? Hard to top that one....LOL!

Well she is quite attractive after all .... and her teaching adds support to what many of these preachers are trying to achieve.

I suppose the two in tandem could be pretty hard to resist.

[Felicity]

She is definitely less abrasive. Classy, smart and a real lady. And also very wrong about some things.

[IBCrazier2]

As far as the kids and the sex thing.......My kid in Pre-K last year asked my wife in the middle of Wal-Mart to explain sex to her. Without a missing a beat my wife replied "it's if you are a boy or a girl". People on the aisle applauded her.

We have taught all three girls from the age they could talk, that their private areas was "her business" and NOBODY talks about their business except mommy and daddy, if mommy thinks he needs to know.

We have bought RR's books, but add the inward issues to the discussion if the books are read. We are greatful that someone has taken the time to try to write something that we believe. But just because the schools teach evolution doesn't mean we are not going to let them go to school or hide them from it...........we are going to teach them what we believe and teach them that not everybody believes the same. We don't have to believe everything we see, hear, read, etc.....but we have to weigh it with what we believe.

I had a guy in our church give me a set of expensive WW2 books as a young teenager. When my grandmother came to visit my grandmother ripped out several pages of them because they had some pictures of asome vegas style dancers in short dresses, etc. To this day I get extremely ticked about it because I have these great books, that were worth some money, but now they are not worth much.

While I am on my rant, If we had taught our teenagers the consequences of sleeping round like std's, babies. 216 payments of child support, etc instead of saying I don't have to give you a reason, I just said no, could we have prevented a whole lot of troubles and heartache.
Recently I heard had a young person tell my wife a guy had convinced her to let him have an*l sex. He told her it wasn't sex because it wasn't normal. Her question was why wasn't I tought about things.

If we had been taught relationships, not just because "I said so" then we wouldn't have this issue with the TV vote etc. I know of churchs preaching against the internet. TEACH ME WHY NOT TELL ME NO!

[MissBrattified]

I don't think anyone here would support the idea of keeping children in the dark about sex, and not warning teenagers of the dangers of having premarital sex.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Felicity

She is definitely less abrasive. Classy, smart and a real lady. And also very wrong about some things.

I'll give her classy, smart and ladylike. I did find her a bit abrasive at the particular conference I attended...however, I was particularly sensitive at that time in my life, so I'm not sure my assessment at that time could be called accurate.

Funny story about that conference...I was sitting with three other friends...well, toward the end of the service, the friend to my left took off her wedding rings and handed them to a second friend. Apparently the second friend was rather shocked, and thought that friend #1 was under conviction over her jewelry and was removing her rings as a result. She was rather relieved (and amused at her own thoughts) when friend #1 reached down, pulled a little bottle of lotion from her purse, put some on her hands, and then offered to share with the rest of us.

Incidentally, RR's sermon that afternoon was about jewelry (and other decorations).

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I'll give her classy, smart and ladylike. I did find her a bit abrasive at the particular conference I attended...however, I was particularly sensitive at that time in my life, so I'm not sure my assessment at that time could be called accurate.

Funny story about that conference...I was sitting with three other friends...well, toward the end of the service, the friend to my left took off her wedding rings and handed them to a second friend. Apparently the second friend was rather shocked, and thought that friend #1 was under conviction over her jewelry and was removing her rings as a result. She was rather relieved (and amused at her own thoughts) when friend #1 reached down, pulled out a little bottle of lotion, put some on her hands, and then offered to share with the rest of us.

Incidentally, RR's sermon that afternoon was about jewelry (and other decorations).

LOL!

I'm sure your assessment was fine.

[IBCrazier2]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I don't think anyone here would support the idea of keeping children in the dark about sex, and not warning teenagers of the dangers of having premarital sex.

Just a soapbox and expressing my opinions.

Not saying anyone would support it, but I have seen it many times.

Just what came to mind.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by IBCrazier2

While I am on my rant, If we had taught our teenagers the consequences of sleeping round like std's, babies. 216 payments of child support, etc instead of saying I don't have to give you a reason, I just said no, could we have prevented a whole lot of troubles and heartache.

TEACH ME WHY NOT TELL ME NO!

For the record; I believe there is a huge difference between how one deals with a 4 year old and a 14 year old. And I am not about keeping teenagers in the dark about sex.

I like you pointing out to the young man about 216 child support payments. I would also point out the lack of control over the child that an unmarried father has.

Abortion? He can't stop her. What kind of men she gets involved with later and brings around the child is her decision unless the guy is a serial killer or similar.

Drinking, smoking, cussing.... I listened to an anguished father describe his child's environment. It was very sad to hear him but one had to wonder why he thought things would have turned out differently. He knew better but nevertheless lived with her out of wedlock. Why think she is suddenly going to raise a child like an Apostolic?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I've never hear RR speak in person but I did get to watch an archived service where she was the speaker. She's a good speaker.

I was amazed to see several august men on the platform sit and nod and AMEN some of the things she was saying that as far as I was concerned were outside of scripture, and I'm not referring to the parts of her teaching on hair that I feel is unbiblical either. I was so surprised and a little amused as well with the "agreement" being expressed. I was thinking ....... "Good heavens! What's happened to these men's minds!" as I watched.

Well she is quite attractive after all .... and her teaching adds support to what many of these preachers are trying to achieve.

Ruth [Schmidt] Harvey was raised in a very good, loving, supportive, truly Apostolic home. She has firm roots/heritage from the Urshan and the Schmidt side of her family. Her mother is a dear woman of God, a licensed UPCI preacher in her own right, always submissive and truly talented in many areas. Ruth's father was one of the best Bible teachers I have every known, humble, and honest to a fault. He loved his family and was very proud of his children. Ruth is the youngest, and was one of the most sheltered.

Ruth loved God with all her heart, and believed and hoped for the best when she married Mike Reider. Her sheltered life did not prepare her for the things she would encounter being married to a man who came from the world, had a lot of baggage, and after marrying Ruth...he fell back into what God had saved and delivered him from.

Ruth could have let the things she suffered take her down, but instead she held fast to God, what she had been taught by Godly parents, and set her eyes on the prize. Ruth is an overcomer and a Godly and anointed woman of God.

She was a wonderful young person, was on a Bible Quiz Team I coached in 1980. She kept herself unspotted from the world and lived a moral Christian life as a young person in our youth group. I was one of her teachers in the High School program at Marion Christian School. She always excelled in all she did.

I had the privilege of hearing her speak in Beaumont, Texas in 2005 and she is an excellent speaker; feminine and anointed. She dresses classy but modestly. She has always possessed a keen sense of style and there is always something she adds or does to make her look unique. We enjoyed many a shopping trip together when she was a teenager.

I am proud of the woman she has become. She gave me a copy of all her books, which I promised to read and did. You can trace her maturity level from the first book until the last book she has written. My favorite is, Adorned For The King. It encouraged me to change my dress to more more conservative, modest look that I used to know, but had gotten away from in my search for healing.

With that said, she has done more for God through her trials and has established herself as a Christian author...something I have not yet done, but have intention of doing in the near future because of her example.

We read her books, buy her books, and critique her books...but she remains the same...holy, modest, and accomplished...things we all strive for. I say, "Great work Ruth, keep up the good work, and don't let anyone tell you that you are anything less than the anointed, and Godly woman you are".

Your forever friend and sister,
Rhonda/Rhoni