Are Tongues The Least Of The Gifts ?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Well, it seems to be intended as a sign to those nearby, no?

No..what did you originally mean by "sign"? I thought you were talking about it being evidence of the Holy Spirit baptism...if that is the case it would be as much evidence to the one speaking as it is to others standing by

Also a sign to the fillee, I suppose. Though even he/she can't tell for sure if it was the real thing. Sure, one can fake tongues without realizing it.

How is he or she faking tongues then?

You just get caught up in the excitement, the expectation, the adrenaline, following the impulse to blurt out whatever pops into your head.

Why would someone do that though and not know they are faking tongues unless someone told them they were supposed to do that?

How else would you explain the tongues that occurs in Hindu and other religious practices? Oh. Yeah. Demons. Forgot about them. Of course, if you were led to speak gibberish by a demon, you'd know it, eh?

What "tongues"? you want me to explain something that as far as I know does not happen and or is not tongues? What do you mean? If you were ernestly seeking the Lord and praying in Jesus name, you think you'd receive a demon?

How often is it faked? My estimate is somewhere around 100%, but that's just me.

And you know that now? Careful now because you just stated a fact in absolute terms. I'd hate to have you end up looking like a liar

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No..what did you originally mean by "sign"? I thought you were talking about it being evidence of the Holy Spirit baptism...if that is the case it would be as much evidence to the one speaking as it is to others standing by


How is he or she faking tongues then?


Why would someone do that though and not know they are faking tongues unless someone told them they were supposed to do that?


What "tongues"? you want me to explain something that as far as I know does not happen and or is not tongues? What do you mean? If you were ernestly seeking the Lord and praying in Jesus name, you think you'd receive a demon?


And you know that now? Careful now because you just stated a fact in absolute terms. I'd hate to have you end up looking like a liar

Fact? Absolute terms??? I'm giving my opinions. I said it was my estimate.

Sigh.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Jason

"faked" perhaps sometimes, and the ministry is often times guilty of pronouncing the holy ghost on someone who did not recieve it. However, there is absolutly genuine tongues, I do not fake toungues. Neither do I speak often in tongues, but when I do, I do not fake it.

Prax, here is an example of facts stated in absolute terms. No possibility that he is wrong. Jason knows that genuine tongues exist. He knows that his tongues are genuine. No chance of delusion or deception, there.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Fact? Absolute terms??? I'm giving my opinions. I said it was my estimate.

Sigh.

How can you make such an estimate unless you have some facts? that's absurd. Based on what? Sigh

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Prax, here is an example of facts stated in absolute terms. No possibility that he is wrong. Jason knows that genuine tongues exist. He knows that his tongues are genuine. No chance of delusion or deception, there.

Those aren't facts used to support an statisic...you said 100 percent. What informs your opinion? Have you ever spoken in tongues?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

How can you make such an estimate unless you have some facts? that's absurd. Based on what? Sigh

Uh, that's not what you said. You said I stated a fact. You said I used absolute terms. What fact? What absolute terms?

Never mind. Just consider me a liar, if you like. I don't care anymore.