I vividly remember how I felt during that time in my life. There is no doubt in my mind that we would have carried it out had she stayed.
There is nothing I hate more than people who abuse children. I'm glad you were delivered from that beast and am sorry you have had to live with the memories. Considering all things, I think you turned out alright.
I am horrified at what children are exposed to daily and the solution they sometimes find to deal with it. I pray there is another explanation, maybe they are not saying much because it's a minor. And I wonder where the mother is.
In my case, my mother had to work a lot of hours because my dad left us and wasn't paying support. In addition, my mom was of the opinion that children always lied and adults always told the truth. She let this be known, and would tell our various babysitters to 'beat them as if they were your own if they don't behave'. And they did.
Of course, since we always lied and adults always told the truth, there was NO WAY we could tell our mom what was going on, and the sitters knew it. Why people thought it was ok to beat on us is beyond me, but it was what I suffered all my childhood life. My mom made sure she had her turns as well, especially when she found out that the sitters beat us....we got it again just for that reason.
While I never sought to harm my mother, I prayed to God nightly that He would cause her to be in a car accident and die...and never come home.
Scary thoughts here, but it's what I lived from the time I was 7 until I was 13. And those feelings I felt then I feel right now as if I'm living it over just in writing this. And if I didn't live this life myself, I don't think I'd believe someone else telling this story.
Oh, but for the grace and mercy of God...
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In my case, my mother had to work a lot of hours because my dad left us and wasn't paying support. In addition, my mom was of the opinion that children always lied and adults always told the truth. She let this be known, and would tell our various babysitters to 'beat them as if they were your own if they don't behave'. And they did.
Of course, since we always lied and adults always told the truth, there was NO WAY we could tell our mom what was going on, and the sitters knew it. Why people thought it was ok to beat on us is beyond me, but it was what I suffered all my childhood life. My mom made sure she had her turns as well, especially when she found out that the sitters beat us....we got it again just for that reason.
While I never sought to harm my mother, I prayed to God nightly that He would cause her to be in a car accident and die...and never come home.
Scary thoughts here, but it's what I lived from the time I was 7 until I was 13. And those feelings I felt then I feel right now as if I'm living it over just in writing this. And if I didn't live this life myself, I don't think I'd believe someone else telling this story.
Oh, but for the grace and mercy of God...
Can I give you a cyber hug? Sorry for all you went through.
What a sad story. I noticed it didn't mention the boy's mother or extended family....hmm. This story is lacking a lot of important details. I'll be interested to see what else comes out.
H1, Jeff told me that he and his brother used to conspire about ways to kill their Dad when they were young boys. It's a wonder they didn't become the Menendez brothers. They didn't have tv or video games, either. I know the first thing I thought of when I read the article was, "What were those men doing to that boy?" It may be something altogether different, but that's the first leap my mind makes.
Interesting. I also never trusted adults, because I felt that they believed as my mom did..that I was a liar. All it would take is another adult to contradict what I said and I'd get beat some more.
My mom was so liberal with other people slapping me around, and she didn't care what or how they did it, even in her presence. When I was about 9, I was sitting with a lady in church who slapped me in the face (I cannot remember why, but I'm sure I did something awful to deserve it). The pastor was so shocked that he called my mom into the office after service and told her to not let others hit me (my mom told me this years later).
It didn't work. He himself 'paddled' me when I was 15, so I'm not sure what his point was in saying that.
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Heavenly One and Miss Brattified have established the fact young children can premeditate such a crime but they have also established the fact the children felt it was their only way out of a terrible situation. I believe this story has much more to it than we know. Hopefully, if the child was suffering abuse, he will be released to his mother without repercussions. This child is going to need a lot of help and support.
I wish people had seen that I was a troubled child instead of a troublemaker. I carry a lot of baggage today because of my childhood.
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Yes, I agree that a child that age can certainly premeditate, however, I'm not sure that someone of that age has a full understanding and appreciation of the severity and finality of their actions. It seem to be a very sad story, and no matter what, that child is going to need a lot of prayer, support, and counseling.
I don't believe that either. In my situation, I just wanted what was happening to me to stop. Planning and praying for things to happen was the answer to my problems.
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There is nothing I hate more than people who abuse children. I'm glad you were delivered from that beast and am sorry you have had to live with the memories. Considering all things, I think you turned out alright.
Sometimes I wonder how I turned out alright!
I am overprotective of my children to a fault. I will not allow anyone to lay a hand on them, and that included my own mother. If any punishing needed to be done, it would be done by me.
My mom used to tell me that I was creating monsters because I didn't beat my kids for everything they did. She has since told me what a wonderful job I have done in raising them, in spite of my lack of beating them...LOL!
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Can I give you a cyber hug? Sorry for all you went through.
Thanks. I love hugs, even the cyber kind.
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Yes, I agree that a child that age can certainly premeditate, however, I'm not sure that someone of that age has a full understanding and appreciation of the severity and finality of their actions. It seem to be a very sad story, and no matter what, that child is going to need a lot of prayer, support, and counseling.
Agreed.
STEW, I believe they can premeditate but in no way understand the severity of their actions. This type of child just wants free from the abuse they suffer and seek a way to find deliverance. They are so abused they don't realize they could talk to a teacher at school, a policeman, or principal and get help. That is why their little minds think in the extreme. My heart breaks for children who suffer such.
STEW, I believe they can premeditate but in no way understand the severity of their actions. This type of child just wants free from the abuse they suffer and seek a way to find deliverance. They are so abused they don't realize they could talk to a teacher at school, a policeman, or principal and get help. That is why their little minds think in the extreme. My heart breaks for children who suffer such.
In my situation, I couldn't talk to any adult...teacher, principal, nobody. See, I was a child who took out my frustrations on others, thus yielding me the title of troubled child. People saw me as a troublemaker, so I was only punished more. My hurts led to hatred and by the time I was 13, I hated everyone. I made sure nobody dared make the mistake of being friendly to me, and I wasn't afraid to stand up to other adults.
By the time I was 16, I was standing up to my mom and making sure that I did everything she didn't want me to do. I got bolder at the age of 17 and did even more.
But God saw through all that, and He helped break that spirit I had and has made me the person I am today. Again, it's only by His grace and mercy that I'm not in prison or dead.
My babysitter wasn't the only person I ever planned on killing. I almost carried out a 'murder plot' when I was 19 on another woman and her innocent elderly parents. I was only a gas can away from pulling that off.
I'm not sure why I'm sharing this, but with all I've been through, I'm so careful not to label children as just being bad, unruly children. There is a reason they are acting that way.
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