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Old 01-23-2009, 07:40 PM
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Re: Race Based Government?

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Perhaps if you didnt think quite so highly of yourself, you and I would get along better.

Funny, you tell me I'm talking too much, but 1/ you're the one who seems to insist on alway having the last word here...And 2/ you're the one who wanted to make a federal case out of all this in the first place, "challenging" and demanding "proof", and going on and on, with your quixotic quest to stick up for that "girl" Michelle Malkin... because you didnt like the fact that I'm among those who consider Malkin to be racist.
If you want "the last word" just give me the promised examples of her making racist statements.
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I gave you a brief overview of why I thought so, and suggested you look into it to form your own opinion. You came back and started this stuff about how you're not convinced, and how I hadnt "proved it" ,etc. And what I said to you , repeatedly, is that it is a subjective matter, and there is no single quote or instance I can provide you that you would consider to be definitive proof... but that this was an opinion I've reached after observing pattern of her writings, interviews and even her associations for quite a while. (<----I didnt think that was so hard to understand or accept). I thought I was entitled to my opinion anyway, but apparently that wasnt enough for you, and so since I didnt provide the "proof" you demanded, thus began your quixotic quest to "stick up for" the "girl" who I had made this "odious charge" against .
You said you had proof - you gave me a specific Google search that didn't even have a single quote or page by Malkin. I pointed out the emptiness of your "proof" and suddenly I became the "bad guy."

I've seen you play this game with other posters. You make hollow and acerbic charges and when someone questions you or challenges you - you suddenly decry their impudence for daring to question so august an authority as yourself.
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We could have simply agreed to disagree, and moved on... but you're the one who kept going on and on, like a grandstanding prosecutor. You could have pushed the "OFF" button a long time ago, but clearly you felt like prolonging the merry go round for whatever reason. You seem to be someone who doesnt know when to just take your foot off the gas pedal, and bring things down a notch or two.
Actually, looking back at this thread - one which I'm sure most folks have abandoned long ago - I see you continually coming back and beating your dead horse. Why don't you just let that dead horse alone? You keep saying Malikin's a racist but you offer no examples and no proof. Your charges are hollow and appear to be false accusations.
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I've had conversations with many, many people on this forum. And at times they and I have disagreed strongly on a variety of issues, from religion to politics. Yet there remains mutual respect between me and them, even if we ended having to disagree on various matters.

Sadly, I've found you to be one of the rudest, most obnoxious persons I've run across here on AFF. And at times I've seen you display a boorishness and cockiness that I would normally only expect to see on the secular forums I'm a part of. However, when your rudeness is pointed out to you, always seem to brush it aside as if it's unimportant, or as if the other person is being "a martyr", or they're "too sensitive", or whatever.
I suppose I should ask for examples where "when your rudeness is pointed out to you, always seem to brush it aside as if it's unimportant" but with you, I know where that'll get me. LOL.

Calling someone a "racist" isn't rude? You played one of the very worst cards in the deck there, in my opinion. Racism is so absurd, petty and stupidly mean that I can't abide it. It's a very important issue for me.

But by making such a baseless charge you have set the standard for rudeness. And when others on AFF have pointed out the short comings in posts where you stoop to groundless accusations and name calling in the past you always seem to respond by throwing a pity party.
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You seem to not know how to talk to people right .
Okay let me follow your example and use the "people skills" you have displayed: You don't like Michelle Malkin because she's a Filipino and you're a racist.

Again, is that a fair charge? I don't think so, but that's how you play the game. Then, when someone cries "foul!" you fold and complain that they're picking on you.

I think my problem here is that I don't know how to talk to you "right." I don't accept your false accusations at face value, I ask too many questions, I rock your boat.
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I dont think I've ever seen you be apologetic, or voluntarily concilatory toward anyone after butting heads with them on here. Its as if you feel you need to "win", to prove yourself right, or to nail the other person to the wall to show them just how wrong you think they are (and I'm not just taking about me -- I've seen you in action with other posters too. This seems to be a recurring issue with you).. You clearly have no problem being gratuitously abrasive and/or antagonistic if you feel like it.
http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...8&postcount=27 - click the link.

I'll eat crow when I have to. Personally, I believe it's good for you. And no, I don't have to be right; but I want to understand and to know what is right and accurate. I often rejoice when I'm shown to be wrong because the correction opens up so many new avenues of thought on an issue.

That's why I asked first about your claim. You then appear to have suffered apoplexy that someone would dare challenge your assertions and the game was on.
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So to see you questioning my so-called "sudden spirituality" , and telling me to "listen to the Lord", is downright laughable. There are some people here on AFF who, if they were to admonish me for something I say or do here, I'd respect their words and take it to heart. But you of all people are the last one to who should question anyone's spirituality. In my view, you just don't have the credibility.

When you learn how to speak to people with that "right spirit" you refer to, even when you disagree with them, maybe your words will have greater value. Meanwhile, you can quote as many scriptures as you want... It means nothing to me, coming from you.
So then, in the future you will refrain from making false accusations? See Exodus 23:1. It's a big deal to me and I will challenge you every time.
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