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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Not all talent is carnal, Jason.  |
i agree
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I find a lot of carnality in people who constantly desire to be up front, and get angry when they aren't allowed those positions. The desire for being in a position is an attitude problem to begin with..
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i mostly agree. But I disagree on one point, I have been discouraged from preaching in the past because my "delievery" wasn't pentecostal enough.
I have since been used in preaching regularly, and done just fine, though I was never able to preach again for the one who told me about my "delivery".
That is my issue, there are people in the congregation who have some desire to do something for God, something that God has called them to do, and to not be able to do that can be both discouraging and confusing.
Furthermore, I believe that when someone is preaching, they ought to preach the Word, preach about a REAL relationship with God, about a genuine Christianity, about loving people, and being a light in the dark world, about true repentance, about teh desire that God has to heal and to be active in the church, about church people who actually love one another. Not cliques, not churches and camp meetings that have become nothing more than a fashion show and a preaching contest, and a put on this white t-shirt and when you put it on you will have the joy of the Lord.
The apostloic preaching wasn't done with gimmicks and props and eloquence, but in the power of the Spirit. That's all I'm saying, it wasn;t right for me to be sat down because I didn't scream, while my preaching had more substance to it than alot of the messages I heard that I forgot (or never even knew) what the point was by the time I got home.
Yet the preachers who had the right "delivery" were those who used props such as styrafoam containers from restuarants, and put them on the alter and scream, come and get your blessing to go!!!!! And run around flailing their arms and throwning their suit jackets all over the place, and having all sorts of gimmicks, but never really preaching on anything.
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I'm usually suspicious of those who only want the spots on the platform, and those in the choir who get upset when they don't get the solo.
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i agree. and I agree with basically your whole post, but my contention is that sometimes those who have the most talent, or the best bloodline/last name are not necessarily the right persons to be used. There are people who may be less talented who can help lead the congreation into the presence of God.
One final thought. I had belonged to a church in the D/FW metroplex, we for a long time only sung out of a hymnal, and sometimes only with a tambourine. We had a good time. We later had someone who helped the church, who couldn't really sing much at all. As they said, "Give me a b and I'll flatten it." And He meant it, but when the singing got to going, there was a genuine and spontaneous spirit of worship. One Sunday night, there was so much worship going on, 2 mormons working the neighborhood, walked into the church to see what was going on-no lie. That couple has started a work in Arkansas that is thriving, and the said church now has very talented musicians and professional music. Some of it on CD's that most on the board would recognize if I mentioned the name. But the worship is not the same, the music is great to hear, but no longer is there dancing, and running and shouting. The worship service is no longer spontaneous, but instead professional. Great to hear on CD while driving, but not like those spontaneous worship services we used to have with folks singing from their hearts.
Now whether this thread was started amiss or not, I don't know, nevertheless, such things do happen in some of our churches. And whether the posters motives were true or not, I'm not sure about that, but the point remains talent ought not to be the #1 factor used in churches to decide who is on the platform or "worship team", and sometimes it is. Bretheren, these things ought not to be so.
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