Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airport

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

No accompanying cash necessary.

"Alex Jones has received a secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” and dated February 20, 2009. A footer on the document indicates it is “unclassified” but “law enforcement sensitive,” in other words not for public consumption. A copy of the report was sent to Jones by an anonymous Missouri police officer....

The MIAC report does not concentrate on Muslim terrorists, but rather on the so-called “militia movement” and conflates it with supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, the so-called patriot movement and other political activist organizations opposed to the North American Union and the New World Order. The MIAC document is a classic guilt by association effort designed to demonize legitimate political activity that stands in opposition to the New World Order and its newly enshrined front man, Barack Obama.

...MIAC claims members of a “rightwing” militia movement organized in the 1990s — generally in response to the Oklahoma City bombing and the events at Waco — “continuously exploit world events in order to increase participation in their movements. Due to the current economical and political situation, a lush environment for militia activity has been created” and supposedly exploited by “constitutionalists” and “white supremacists,” the latter an oft-employed canard used to demonize activists as dangerous and potentially violent lunatics."

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If I am piecing this together correctly, this is more about him being associated with Ron Paul, and the money this young man was carrying just gave them a reason to detain him.

That is what I hearing anway.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I think you need to review some of the airport's security directives.



And we're going to keep it that way by following up on EVERY red flag.



I didn't break a law Coadie... had I broken a law they would have arrested me on the spot.



I don't know the security directives in place at the time. There may have been a security directive that they were to be on the look out for a network of known arms dealers carrying a substantial amount of cash. There's so much you and I don't know while we gripe from the sidelines.

Bro, if you carry a knife into a police station, you have broken the law. there is law for that. in fact most places like that have a big red sign in front. So when the Po-Po tell you to take your knife back to the car, they are actually keeping you from breaking the law.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

If he said that he would be making it up out of thin air...

Well, that's what a police officer does when he stops your vehicle. What would be the difference?

We are talking about nabbing people for having box cutters, guns, knives, etc, BUT money can do much harm and maybe more in the long run - it can buy more and bigger things - pay for services, etc. toward terrorism, etc.

So, if the guy is suspect by having a box of money in his luggage - what is up with that? It is suspect, Digging.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

lets see. airport secruity.

Keep people on airplanes protected.

dude has a box cutter in his pocket. Take it away from him, ask a bunch of questions, run a background check and maybe not let him on the plane. check

dude is carrying an AK-47. Send him to jail. check

dude as $4500 bucks cash on him. ask myself a question. if this guy tosses a wad of bills at the pilot, will that bring down the plane? no. leave dude alone.

sorry, I dont see where cash = danger to airplane. Not-Normal does not = danger. it never has.

Perfectly LEGAL behavior is no reason to detain anyone.

First question...what security directives were in place at the time? They may have been looking for a network of individuals to try to carry cash through. These guys may have just sold a small armory of weapons to a domestic terror cell. Or they might be on their way to some place to fund some militant cause (Ireland, Palastine, Kosovo, you name it).

Terror's lifeblood isn't weapons...it's money. We have more efforts in place to follow money than weapons. This is common sense. What if he were part of a network up to no good and they just let him and two dozen others carrying cash like this breeze on through? This is bigger than this complaining little nitwit. What if this network got the money to where it was supposed to go...bombs were bought with it...and an Israeli or American school was blown up? Then security records would show that two dozen of these folks were tracked through that airport with cash on them and no one said a word.

I see your concern Ferd...but it didn't hurt to stop this guy and verify that he wasn't a threat and that others weren't going through with cash like this also.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

A delay or temporary detainment without charges until one is cleared of any wrong doing after becoming suspect when one has done NOTHING wrong or suspicious and is actully being detained spicifically for doing something that is COMPLETLEY LAWFUL is kidnapping by federal autorities.

Bro...it's an airport. There are even things you can't "say", especially while in SIDA and sterile areas.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila
Folks...consider this. We're still on a war footing. There are people out there dedicated to destroying us. And yes....they carry large amounts of cash. And it's common for them to break it up among a group of people and carry it through separately. This is war.

People like yourself that voted for Abortion and the Pres that pushes it are the enemy. 3,500 murdered daily. Do you know if you fly to Kansas to have a late term abortion by Tiller the killer, it is 6,000 dollars cash and it is front money?

This is a relative of sex trafficking. Abortion is the last defense against fornication and adultery that resuulted in conception.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

So, if the guy is suspect by having a box of money in his luggage - what is up with that? It is suspect, Digging.

No ma'am. It is not suspect.

it might make one curious.

It might even make one nosey.

But carrying cash.. on an airplane trip... where you might be going to have a good old time somewhere and have plenty of cash to do so... is not suspect.

They are the TSA... Transportation Security Administration.

There is nothing unsafe about cash.
There is nothing unsecure about cash.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Well, that's what a police officer does when he stops your vehicle. What would be the difference?

We are talking about nabbing people for having box cutters, guns, knives, etc, BUT money can do much harm and maybe more in the long run - it can buy more and bigger things - pay for services, etc. toward terrorism, etc.

So, if the guy is suspect by having a box of money in his luggage - what is up with that? It is suspect, Digging.

Money is legal but when a policeman finds loads of cash along with drugs or illegal weapons, they have reasonable suspicion to believe that cash will be used for illegal activity and thus a reason to detain and question and even arrest and confiscate as evidence.

however, when there is no other evidence of illegal activity, law enforcement has NO LEGAL GROUNDS to detain the individual AT ALL.

[Digging4Truth]

What are those directives that we need to review Aquilla.

Still waiting.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Well, I think he was trying to prove a point, and HE knew he was recording the conversation. If it had been me, I would have just said, "I just came from a fundraising event, and these are the funds collected from t-shirt/bumper sticker sales, etc." I do realize that we don't HAVE to give certain information, and I respect his right to withhold it. As one of the guys in the video stated, keeping him off the airplane is one thing; escorting him to the police station simply for carrying cash on his person (or in his suitcase) is really stupid. What next? Are police officers who stop people for speeding going to go through their purses, wallets and vehicles to see if they're carrying cash, and take them down for questioning if they have more than a certain amount?

That's another thing...if this guy did all this to prove a point...he took valuable time and manpower away from performing legitimate security duties. He's playing games. I'd be highly irate if I were a security official.