MISS B, I think that the whole point of what Keith and I are trying to convey is that people in this movement preach so hard about dress code and 'taking care of the temple' but yet they don't cause they eat fatty food that are fried and stuff. You can't have it both ways.....a temple takes up keep. It takes a fresh coat of paint and such.
It's not unholy to be fat.
It is unholy to be fat and wear spandex in public.
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"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
I will say that I am 20 pounds over my limit and I dont feel confortable with that for myself but I dont think im sinning.Since we are talking about waight issues can somebody on this forum come up with a healthy diet that comes from God???Because thier is so many diets out there that no one that has ever tried to diet became healthy from it and alot of folks got sick.Then our health care system came up with pills that messed with peoples heart and then theres the low carb diet and the high carb diet and the grape friut diet and the starvation diet!!!!We have the government messing with the genes of our food and most cant afford organic because they jack the prices up so high.Then there are the poor folk who can only eat poor mans food witch consist of alot of posta and starch and I fall into that catigory.What Im trying to say is lets figure out what works and show the folks how to lose the weight and keep it off.
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Love covers a multitude of sin!
I'm gonna get fat someday and come back and smack some people.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
I will say that I am 20 pounds over my limit and I dont feel confortable with that for myself but I dont think im sinning.Since we are talking about waight issues can somebody on this forum come up with a healthy diet that comes from God???Because thier is so many diets out there that no one that has ever tried to diet became healthy from it and alot of folks got sick.Then our health care system came up with pills that messed with poeples heart and then theres the low carb diet and the high carb diet and the grape friut diet and the starvation diet!!!!We have the government messing with the genes of our food and most cant afford organic because they jack the prices up so high.Then there are the poor folk who can only eat poor mans food witch consist of alot of posta and starch and I fall into that catigory.
"Steamables" - frozen vegetables sold in bags that can be steamed "in bag" in your microwave. I can catch them on sale at the Super Walmart for $1.00/bag. Regular price - $2.00 / bag.
Canned tuna - store brand, 99 cents / can.
Whole Wheat bread is better than white bread.
Don't eat after 6:30pm.
Drink water instead of soda or those high fructose sugary colored water drinks.
Walking 30 minutes a day is better than not exercising at all.
These are things that an economically challenged person can take into consideration when trying to lose weight.
To say that I can't lose weight because I am too poor is just nother excuse.
You encourage personal failure when you believe your own excuses.
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"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
And nobody has offered scripture that even hints that being overweight is a sin or anything else that's been mentioned in some of these posts.
Of course there isn't scripture that says being overweight is a sin - I get so tired of that argument, but being overweight is EXTREMELY unhealthy and it can kill you. If you do not care enough about yourself to do something about taking care of the body God has given you do you think God is really pleased with that?
I will say that I am 20 pounds over my limit and I dont feel confortable with that for myself but I dont think im sinning.Since we are talking about waight issues can somebody on this forum come up with a healthy diet that comes from God???Because thier is so many diets out there that no one that has ever tried to diet became healthy from it and alot of folks got sick.Then our health care system came up with pills that messed with peoples heart and then theres the low carb diet and the high carb diet and the grape friut diet and the starvation diet!!!!We have the government messing with the genes of our food and most cant afford organic because they jack the prices up so high.Then there are the poor folk who can only eat poor mans food witch consist of alot of posta and starch and I fall into that catigory.What Im trying to say is lets figure out what works and show the folks how to lose the weight and keep it off.
Read the Old Testament - there is plenty of scripture that will give you an idea on how to eat. The guy that came up with the Maker's Diet got it from the bible - everyone should read his book - it is pretty awesome.
No one has to go to a gym to work out. Treadmills can be bought and used at home. Walking in the neighborhood can be done. Weights can be bought. There is really no excuse (other than disease, etc) for someone not to exercise.
I have to disagree with you.
Some people DO have to go to a gym to work out. Some people need a trainer to help with specific needs. Some people lack the discipline to work out at home. Some people don't have the space for a treadmill or other equipment in their home IF they had the money to buy the equipment. Some people wouldn't dream of walking in their neighborhood due to safety issues.
And then again theres personal preference...you know...free will to choose.
From my observations, apostolic men do indeed go to the gym and work out. They swim, play racquetball, and have a good time with others. But women are told they can't go to such places unless its an all female environment. For some women this option exists for others it does not.
My question is, why is it OK for the men to go to CO-ED gyms but the women can't? Thats just plain stupid nonsense. (Sorry Ferd...but its the truth based on my personal observations.)
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I think people in a religious system- not just UPC, think they are not suppose to "feel" any thing negative, so instead of dealing with an negative emotion or thought they stuff it with food.
And Addict is still an addict, just because it is food doesn't mean you don't have an addiction.
I think it is as much or more a lifestyle issue that is it a negative emotional issue, perhaps there is even a spiritual component as I think the next gluttony message I hear preached will be the first.
We simply don't address it. I agree that among pentecostal circles it seems to be a bigger problem because of the lifestyle doesn't lend itself to healthy food and physical activity.
But seriously There are solutions that blow away every single excuse.
As a guy who has dropped 100 lbs over a 6 year period. I can say there are no excuses.
My pastor has a great solution to the late night fast food after service....He just preaches all the restaurants closed.
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