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Old 05-08-2009, 03:36 PM
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Well, if that is the case or done that way, it would not be hard. It would not have to be the devil personally but an agent of the Devil.
i knew it....is he(the devil) represented by Scott Borus(?) probably.

you think the devil has "agents"? are these like secret agents or like the Matrix type agents? and since the devil is driven by pride...would this "agent" steal a little of the devil thunder if he booked all the big names? wouldn't the devil's pride prohibit him from letting some other "agent" get all the evil press? just wondering.
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Old 05-08-2009, 03:40 PM
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Does everything have to be either from God or from the devil?
Timmy...why ask questions you already know the answers to.

of course it all has to be God or the devil....or anyone but us. who else could it be...us...mere humans? see if its us then we are actually responsible for what we decide to do...if its God or the devil...well then its Gods fault....the devils fault...the churches fault....the pastors fault...societies fault...but is most certainly NOT my fault. i am but a mere human.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:48 PM
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Timmy...why ask questions you already know the answers to.

of course it all has to be God or the devil....or anyone but us. who else could it be...us...mere humans? see if its us then we are actually responsible for what we decide to do...if its God or the devil...well then its Gods fault....the devils fault...the churches fault....the pastors fault...societies fault...but is most certainly NOT my fault. i am but a mere human.
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:38 AM
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Well first of all I was commenting on what people are saying in general as well as what you said. You did not actually say the part about strong Christian.

However beside the above quote where you called people wishy washy that were honest enough to admit that carnal, worldly music such as gangster rap can have an effect on them wishy washy.

Further you tacitly justified it being ok to listen to that kind of stuff by asserting that you would not change into a gangster and my point was that just because it did not change you into a gangster, a radical change, does not mean it does not have some affect on you spiritually that you are not seeing and that is long term, not over night.

For example someone that listens to that kind of music regularly, might not change into a gangster over night, or ever, but they might find their walk with God is not as strong as it once was
I was not calling someone that stands up for something wishy washy. Music can influence anyone at anytime. What I am saying is that for me I like listening to the music. It is up to EVERYONE to make their limits on what they feel they can do. If you Sir. Prax don't feel you can listen to it then don't. You argument that music affects people is right, but your argument is assuming that one is 'super spiritual' or a certain level already. For me I go to church often, but I am not a typical UPCer...far, far from it.
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