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Originally Posted by clgustaveson
Your logic doesn't make sense (again don't take this as a personal attack) but you say it is something you do because you are saved, therefore you don't have to do it to be saved... but you change your stance and say people still have to do it... if you really believed what you said first you would have said "should" rather than "have"...
I just don't think ritualism is enough to make me feel compelled to get baptized... (while I have been) I just don't think ritualism or simply because everyone else did it is a good enough answer to imply it must be done...
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Not offended.
But it's like this.
You don't "clean yourself up" and then come to Jesus.
He calls and you come to Him because He's calling you to repentance.
You don't continue in sin. You strive to live a life pleasing to the Lord.
These are things that a Christian MUST DO.
It doesn't save you, but you do it because as a Christian, this is what you are instructed to do.
Just as the new believer MUST DEPART FROM SIN, that same new believer MUST BE BAPTIZED.
If for no other reason than obedience.
This is why the scripture in Peter about baptism saving us is important:
IF YOU HAVE A GOOD CONSCIENCE TOWARDS YOUR NEW LORD AND SAVIOR, YOU WILL DEMONSTRATE THAT BY OBEYING THE SCRIPTURES.
But you don't get baptized to get saved. I'm speaking to the intent of one's heart and the way the Gospel should be presented-- a way that does not encourage "performance pentecost" or legalism or anything that would suggest that somehow our actions saved us.
How do you look at Communion?
In your mind, does taking Communion save you?