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Originally Posted by Aquila
All I know is this what happened to me.
I went to an altar and repented of my sins, crying out to Jesus to forgive me. The men around me were praying for Jesus to forgive me. Suddenly I felt the weight of my own sin lift from my shoulders, I was forgiven. Then I began to praise Him and as I did God filled me with the Holy Ghost and I spoke in tongues for over 40 minutes. When the Spirit subsided and I was able to stand I was told that I needed to be water baptized in Jesus name. I gladly accepted and was water baptized that night in the wonderful name of Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior.
I was forgiven before I was water baptized. Even the Holy Ghost testifies to that reality because I was filled to overflowing with God’s Spirit BEFORE my water baptism. God will not dwell in an unclean vessel. If sins aren’t forgiven (aphesis Gk., remitted or forgiven) at repentance people would receive the Holy Ghost only after water baptism.
The acts of coming into covenant including Abraham where only brought about by responding to God ot his command. Not simply repentance! Abraham was not in covenant until HE DID! As was Noah or anyone else.
I don’t know about you… but I was delivered at an old fashioned altar.
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See my points before on this about receiving the manifestation of the HS before baptism.
Repentance does allow one to feel a weight leave as does any confession and people testify to this religious or not. Also your argument for "unclean" vessel is poor and lacks foundation in your intent of it's use. As I have said before he only needs heart turned/repentant which is not at enmity with him to use them. Has nothing to do with "sins" what makes a person unclean is his heart at enmity/fighting against God. Repentance brings you to the alter prepared to be able to offer your gift/yourself to be united with him in death.
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