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View Poll Results: Are you deluded?
No, not at all. Everything I believe is correct. 7 21.88%
Yes. 5 15.63%
How could I possibly know if I'm deluded or not? 10 31.25%
Other. (Please explain.) 10 31.25%
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:00 AM
John Atkinson John Atkinson is offline
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Re: Are you deluded?

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Originally Posted by Aquila View Post
I was talking to a non-Christian friend of mine and he brought up a very similar point in our discussion. He essentially asked; if Christians (including Apostolics) are filled with the Spirit and reading the same Bible... how do we come to so many different opinions and understandings? I told him that it was because of flesh. He had an answer that deeply troubled me. He said that he believed that our confusion was from God and emailed me this verse...
"Likewise, We also made a covenant with those who call themselves Christians, but they too have neglected much of what they were enjoined. As a result, We stirred among them enmity and hatred, which will last till the Day of Resurrection and soon Allah will inform them all of what they have one. O people of the Book (Jews and Christians)! Now Our Messenger has come to you to reveal much of what you have concealed from the Holy Books and to pass over much which is no longer necessary. There has come to you from Allah a new Light and a clear Book, with which Allah will guide to the ways of peace all those who seek His good pleasure and bring them out of the depth of darkness into the light of His grace and guide them to the Right Way." - Surah 5:14-16, Al-Ma'idah, The Koran
He believes that this enmity and hatred among us is a fulfillment of prophecy found in the Koran and that it will reveal to the entire world that we don't have the truth. He believes that, because of this division, Islam will shine before all of humanity and triumph around the world.
Don't be very disturbed about the Surah Brother. At the time Al'Quran was penned, there was already many bitter against each other sects of Christians. No big deal for a false prophet to take credit for it.

The surah represents an Islamic attempt to use the divisiveness to convert confused Christians to Islam. At least the various Christians aren't driving truckloads of explosives into each other, like the sunnis and the shias.

Using unity as an argument point is kinda futile from the beginning, there are dozens of islamic sects and they generally don't like each other at all. Proving the the "new Light and Clear Book" isn't so enlightened and not so clear.

I wouldn't call all the differences just because of the flesh, we have free will. That doesn't go away when we recieve the Holy Ghost. We still have brains that because of our raising, education and etc still contains philosophies and outlooks towards issues that is going to color how we approach Christianity. Naturally, there will be differences even among people who embrace the same core doctrines. Doesn't make God wrong, or even us deluded, just makes us people.
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