Born of water may mean baptism in water but we mustn't use that BR (baptismal regeneration) term. It's a no-no. It associates us with Roman Catholics, Orthodox, Lutherans, Campbellites, and those kind of people (and we all know that they are going to hell).
As much as you know Sam you should have known that you just used it improperly to certain groups. Also I find your remark of going to hell not to the caliber of person you are!
[QUOTE=Sam;761231]Which baptism does Romans 6 speak of:
water baptism?
Spirit baptism?
both baptisms (water and Spirit)
or some other experience that happens prior to water and/or Spirit baptism?
Bro. Sam,
My late father would say, "One Lord, One faith and One baptism".
Duel elements but one Baptism. Water and Spirit.
So what if the Spirit comes down and raises us up out of the grave
(waterery or otherwise).No matter when the Spirit comes, we're gonna
rise!!
Which baptism does Romans 6 speak of:
water baptism?
Spirit baptism?
both baptisms (water and Spirit)
or some other experience that happens prior to water and/or Spirit baptism?
Bro. Sam,
My late father would say, "One Lord, One faith and One baptism".
Duel elements but one Baptism. Water and Spirit.
So what if the Spirit comes down and raises us up out of the grave
(waterery or otherwise).No matter when the Spirit comes, we're gonna
rise!!
Blessings, Brother!
Falla39
amen... one deals with the flesh and the other with the Spirit.
amen... one deals with the flesh and the other with the Spirit.
By obedient faith man does what he can do in the flesh and God does in
the Spirit what no man can do!!
God sent His Son to do in the flesh what GOd could not do as Spirit!
By obedient faith man does what he can do in the flesh and God does in
the Spirit what no man can do!!
God sent His Son to do in the flesh what GOd could not do as Spirit!
Blessings,
Falla39
Yep, thus the need for two aspects of one reality we know as salvation! Made alive by water and Spirit!
Yep, thus the need for two aspects of one reality we know as salvation! Made alive by water and Spirit!
Also as Jesus (humanity) prayed to the Father (Spirit) in John 17, beginning with verse 21,
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
NOT ONE person from Pentecost until present has recieved remission of sins without being immersed in in water while the name of Jesus Christ was invoked over them.
NOT ONE person from Pentecost until present has recieved remission of sins without being immersed in in water while the name of Jesus Christ was invoked over them.
Really? You sure about that?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
not in the early church it wasn't. No such thing as baptism not for salvation.
Still not today either. Also more people believe it is than not: Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, COC, OP's and many others would disagree with you on that and the statistics bare that out. Numbers though mean nothing but your point was wrong.
You are distorting my words... I never said it was a part of salvation just a large part of the church (which it was)...
Saying that it is so important to be completely right on this subject is just asking for an argument...
I wont waste my time... I just want to know why people believe what they believe so I can take a personal stance.
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