Quote:
Originally Posted by gloryseeker
I believe that you are right, but you also have to look at the "end of the story."
Those same people are typically, unproductive, have no capacity to create, live a self indulgent lifestyle, believe that something is owed to them, that government should take care of them, are lazy, not faithful, heavily in debt, and really affect no other lives.
So while your analysis is probably more right than it is wrong, it is not good. Just look at the "parents" of those who are under 30. They have no parenting skills, their kids are committing suicide at record numbers, on anti depressants, cutting themselves, joining gangs in record numbers, and having sex with everyone around including the same gender.
In my daughter's High School their were 80 pregnant girls. This all comes from some place...it's the theology of this group that you are talking about.
Again there is some truth in what you are saying. We are seeing the church "change", however the change is producing a very weak Christian who says that they love Jesus but are hopping from bed to bed, drinking, cussings, partying like the world on Saturday and they rejoicing with the worship team on Sunday.
It is totally contrary to the multitude of scripture that talks about being like a "tree planted."
The worship of organization is not God's plan. But stability is. What I believe that you will see is that as Isaiah states (60:1-2) while gross darkness covers the world and people their will be a glorious church that arises. One that is committed, loves Jesus more than the world, whose focal point is like the fathers of the faith who are committed to getting God's work wrapped up.
|
That is a very broad brush you are using. With all due respect, it's simply ignorant to claim that those of my generation are all "typically unproductive, have no capacity to create, live a self indulgent lifestyle, believe that something is owed to them, that government should take care of them, are lazy, not faithful, heavily in debt, and really affect no other lives." simply because they don't view things the way you do. And frankly, it's this "back in my day..." mindset that is unproductive and obnoxious enough to make the change worthwhile
. There is nothing inherently wrong with a people-based set of loyalites vs.an organization-based one. For instance, I have worked with the same people for nearly 20 years because of personal friendships and loyalties that outlasted many of the organizations of which we were a part. We have seen the abuse that comes from organizations both corporate and religious. And while structure can be good, every once in a while, you need to tear it all down and start over. Clean out the cobwebs and remind those in charge that they are only there because the people put them there.
Threaded Mode
