Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
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Originally Posted by OnTheFritz
I don't think it's hatred, I think it's more like disgust. I think many view the term "Apostolic" as a brand - or a badge of honor. So when people with lower standards tarnish the brand by watering it down, it makes people angry that their badge of honor holds less value. That's why we all get into arguments about what the term "apostolic" and "pentecostal" really means and who it classifies.
Now that's what I call "spot on"! Very well said and when you read it, you make something so complicated seem so simple!
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
I mean that...you really simplified something that at times seems SOOO complex. It really isn't complex....maybe that's what we need to focus on and remember!!! Jesus did it simple, why can't we????
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
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Originally Posted by GraceAmazing
I mean that...you really simplified something that at times seems SOOO complex. It really isn't complex....maybe that's what we need to focus on and remember!!! Jesus did it simple, why can't we????
Thanks.
What still makes it kinda complicated IMO, though, is figuring out who's right. That's where we get into gray areas. There is something to be said for being associated with a group of like minded people - with a label that actually means something to define them. But there is also something to be said for not letting labels drive us apart over non-critical issues.
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Hatred is not the right word. I think the exclusiveness of our doctrine sometimes attract (more often breed) a certain type of people that thrive on being exclusive-- causing an overcompetitive spirit to develop between otherwise godly Pastors and their flocks.
Indeed. You said a mouthful here. "Exclusiveness" is not exactly a Christian attribute within the body.
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
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Originally Posted by moniker
I come to you hoping you can answer several serious questions. Doing so will require some time, contemplation and bravery.
Here goes...
1. Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics?
2. Why are Apostolics so afraid of intellectualism?
3. Why do Apostolics give an inordinate amount of attention to the Devil, witchcraft and all things superstitious?
4. Why are Apostolics territorial?
5. Which is the greater threat to Apostolics; the Emerging Church, or introversion?
The above are not solely related to Apostolics or Pentecostals. Have you ever seen the Baptists fight?
However, IMO the behavioral issues related to the religious groups you mention is a direct result of not properly understanding the simplicity of the gospel and functioning in Christ.
Any person regardless of religious affiliation who does not solely place their faith in Christ and His work will struggle with the sin nature.
Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
IF ...? there is hatred among Apostolics, it is simply because the love of God is NOT
shed abroad in hearts and lives! God is LOVE and if we have GOD in us, we should
be showing forth HIS LOVE. If we don't have LOVE, we don't have GOD!
7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
9 This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.
10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.
11 Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.
13 We know that we live in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit.
14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.
15 If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God.
16 And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.
17 In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him.
18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
19 We love because he first loved us.
20 If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
21 And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.
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