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Old 06-26-2009, 11:47 AM
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Re: Will The Apostiles Doctrine Alone Save Us?

Thats a real big assuption especiallly since it does not say what he specifically saw..
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Old 06-26-2009, 11:51 AM
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Re: Will The Apostiles Doctrine Alone Save Us?

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It's not very good evidence, if it can easily be faked and not be "discerned".

If anyone thinks they can always tell when it's fake, I could show up at your church, in cognito, and easily demonstrate that you're wrong.
All you have said here is true, Timmy, but God knows. Isn't he the one we have to answer to? Yes, he is.
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Thats a real big assuption especiallly since it does not say what he specifically saw..
When you account for all the other times where tongues was involved, it makes more sense than anything else. I mean, he never sought to buy power to cast out devils or heal the sick. But something must have been greater than that for him to want to buy what he saw when they laid hands on the people and they got the Spirit.
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All you have said here is true, Timmy, but God knows. Isn't he the one we have to answer to? Yes, he is.
Well sure, God knows everything! So evidence can't be for His benefit, can it? I just find it strange to call something evidence that isn't really evidence. Not to mention all the signs and "fruit" that are supposed to be how the world knows you are Christ's followers, and that you have the Holy Spirit. (Lots of unbelievers exhibit those signs and fruit, and some believers don't.)
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Paul said doctrine saves.

13: Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
14: Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.
15: Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all.
16: Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. 1 Tim. 4:13-16

If one takes no heed to the doctrine he will not be saved.
right, taking heed to the doctrine not the doctrine itself. only Jesus saves
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