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Old 07-21-2009, 09:28 AM
Kim Komando Kim Komando is offline
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Re: Grace Church Of Humble...

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Originally Posted by GrowingPains View Post
Thanks for this information! That was very interesting and informative. I've looked at PL in Austin and I wasn't aware they are 3-step. I just wanted the info, so not to argue, but you said the the HG is taught (at Humble) as a "real salvational" experience. Salvational, but yet not a requirement for salvation? Do they teach people receive the Holy Ghost by evidence of tongues, or immediately after baptism?
You can access Promise Lands' guide for believers called the Enquirer's Handbook here:

http://www.promiselandchurch.net/content/view/146/152/

Also the PL church offers an outreach site that speaks of the 3 step Water and Spirit experience here: http://theexperience238.com/

As for Grace, I believe most there, at least the pastors, adhere to the mainstream Pentecostal doctrine of subsequence that teaches that the baptism of the Holy Ghost is subsequent to being born of the Spirit (from above) through faith/repentance (conversion), or what is termed as regeneration. It is a gift of the Holy Ghost for empowerment and edification accompanied by tongues for the believer because of salvation (Acts 1:8, 1 Corinthians 14:4). Hence, the term "real salvational" was used in my original statement. This was the soteriological and pneumatological position of turn of the century Apostolic Pentecostals also like Goss, Gurley, Yadon and others.

As for those that teach we are filled with the Holy Ghost after water baptism you might have to look at other non-Pentecostal groups.

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