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Old 07-21-2009, 10:04 AM
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Re: Grace Church Of Humble...

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Originally Posted by Kim Komando View Post
You can access Promise Lands' guide for believers called the Enquirer's Handbook here:

http://www.promiselandchurch.net/content/view/146/152/

Also the PL church offers an outreach site that speaks of the 3 step Water and Spirit experience here: http://theexperience238.com/

As for Grace, I believe most there, at least the pastors, adhere to the mainstream Pentecostal doctrine of subsequence that teaches that the baptism of the Holy Ghost is subsequent to being born of the Spirit (from above) through faith/repentance (conversion), or what is termed as regeneration. It is a gift of the Holy Ghost for empowerment and edification accompanied by tongues for the believer because of salvation (Acts 1:8, 1 Corinthians 14:4). Hence, the term "real salvational" was used in my original statement. This was the soteriological and pneumatological position of turn of the century Apostolic Pentecostals also like Goss, Gurley, Yadon and others.

As for those that teach we are filled with the Holy Ghost after water baptism you might have to look at other non-Pentecostal groups.
Excellent! Thanks for the PL information.

So being "born of the Spirit" is not about the Spirit? Or is not about the baptism of the Holy Spirit? Do these churches find it permissible for saints that have not received the baptism of the HG to participate in ministry, or is the HG viewed (like Sherri's church) as the gift of empowerment for ministry, and a prerequisite to minister? I would love to hear a good discussion on these issues that is clear, concise and doesn't go to 200 pages long.
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