Universal Health Insurance & Abortion:

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Coadie, I think you're really misinformed as to how Obama's plan is envisioned to work. Ultimately, after all is said and done, all Americans will be able to buy into a government subsidized health care plan like those possessed by members of Congress. I work for the government and I too have a government plan. It doesn't work the way you're describing it. You see essentially the United States government will approach the major PRIVATE insurance providers and use the bargaining power of the American people's tax money (much the way government uses the bargaining power of government employees) for a health insurance policy that covers all Americans. When the American government says, "We want to purchase insurance plans for 3 hundred million tax paying Americans.", with that kind of contribution the premiums will be VERY affordable. Essentially the United States government will pick up all Americans as though they too were government employees like me. With that kind of contribution from tax payers the premium most Americans will be expected to pay will be in the basement. Again, it's a contract between the United States government and PRIVATE insurance companies to cover all Americans. This will also generate competition between the insurance companies regionally using market forces (gotta love Capitalism!) to bring the premiums down even further as each insurance provider competes for the bid. It will be the biggest insurance coverage contract in history. Let's say that in your region UHC (United Health Care) gets the contract. You will have to choose... either purchase insurance on your own with the going market rate, sign up for a policy offered by your employer... or sign up for the policy mirroring that of those in Congress offered by UHC for all American citizens. Let's say you sign up for the UHC policy subsidized by the government. Now if you go to the doctor you give them your UHC health insurance card just as though you were a government employee like me and they will give you treatment like they do me and my family. Your doctor will then file the claim with the insurance company for payment. The only way you'll be denied any kind of treatment is if it is elective or not covered by your policy. Now here's where the plans like Congress come in... you'll possess the same coverage as your Congressmen. You'll only be denied treatment if it's something that your Congressmen would be denied treatment for. These procedures are typically elective and cosmetic. You'll be issued a prescription for your pills just as you would if you had my government subsidized plan. You'll be able to schedule an MRI and have it done ASAP as with my government subsidized plan.

Coadie, I'm a government employee with a government subsidized plan through UHC. It's not the Cadillac plan like those in Congress but it's far better than anything corporate is offering and I've never been denied coverage for anything. Whoever is feeding you this line of bull your spewing owes you an apology my brother. And in the name of Christian ethics... you really should strive to tell the truth not wild scary tales of lies and misinformation parroted by right wing spin doctors.

It's one thing to say that you don't believe you should have a government subsidized insurance plan because you don't believe tax payers should fit that kind of bill. However, it's entirely another when you don't tell the truth about the plans on the table.

Is this fact or speculation?