10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New GS

[Timmy]

[KWSS1976]

All in favor say yea
All not in favor keep your mouth closed...

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

Sam is right on this one..... you are way out of the loop if you think KH allowed someone to continue to teach the one-step doctrice at CLC .... There may be those that believed it and remained on staff - but it wasn't taught after LY left.

Thee seems to be some confusion around definitions and history. Here are some facts about CLC.

We were taught that one could be justified at faith (declared to be right with God, that is quite substantial, but that is not full salvation, the normative New Birth experience is to repent, faith, baptism in water and Spirit) That is not one step.

They (staff) were honest enough to show that our founders and how some even to the present days had divergent views on full NT salvation and how one becomes a member of the Bride of Christ the Church.

Also it is in the charter/by laws of Christian LIfe College/WABC that Acts 2:38 will not be taught as a Heaven or Hell issue.

Those are the facts, as presently I can't vouch that those things still exist. But up to a few years ago they were still present.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Pastor Keith

Thee seems to be some confusion around definitions and history. Here are some facts about CLC.

We were taught that one could be justified at faith (declared to be right with God, that is quite substantial, but that is not full salvation, the normative New Birth experience is to repent, faith, baptism in water and Spirit) That is not one step.

They (staff) were honest enough to show that our founders and how some even to the present days had divergent views on full NT salvation and how one becomes a member of the Bride of Christ the Church.

Also it is in the charter/by laws of Christian LIfe College/WABC that Acts 2:38 will not be taught as a Heaven or Hell issue.

Those are the facts, as presently I can't vouch that those things still exist. But up to a few years ago they were still present.

Keith,

You were a little ahead of me, but other than LY I don't remember any of the faculty ever saying what they personally believed. DS for example would default to what Clyde Haney taught or what some other old timer had to say about the issue. So for people to say there was a one-step teaching at CLC isn't accurate. They did seem to me to be more fair to that position in terms of talking about those who held that position.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Keith,

You were a little ahead of me, but other than LY I don't remember any of the faculty ever saying what they personally believed. DS for example would default to what Clyde Haney taught or what some other old timer had to say about the issue. So for people to say there was a one-step teaching at CLC isn't accurate. They did seem to me to be more fair to that position in terms of talking about those who held that position.

I remember talking to DS and repeating everything that I stated here, this was the position of the CLC when he was there, I also believe that DS position is stated in his wonderful books.

[Kim Komando]

Haney is reelected!

[Kim Komando]

Not!

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Kim Komando

Not!

You're a booger.

[Consapostolic1]

Originally Posted by Kim Komando

Not!

So he wasn't reelected?

[Kim Komando]

Haneywood ends. Conference voting for new GS