Hello

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by josh

For the record, I used to post on fcf as "josh" and still had my old account. I am the pastor of FPC of Colorado Springs...I believe everyone has the address by now!

Also, for the record, the length of time between my calling out and the reply to this unfortunate turn of events has nothing to do with testosterone deficiency! Nate was banned so he couldn't come back and clear this up and I have been on a trip with no internet service.

After holinesspk was called out for saying things about a neighboring church, I asked him to delete all references to other churches...and to our church. I asked Pel to delete his quotes. I then talked to holinesspk about the situation and why I don't want anything remotely related to our church put out on discussion boards. During this discussion I happened to mention that I probably know who Pelathais is (I didn't know, but I knew we were acquainted).

The reason I gave holinesspk for not discussing or identifying our church or its members on discussion boards was because of an old situation I don't feel the liberty to discuss here. The person involved in this other situation is a problem of the highest degree...that is sufficient for this explanation. (I will say that it isn't a neighboring pastor, though). Somehow, holinesspk assumed I was describing pelathais and I didn't pick up on that. The unfortunate result was that holinesspk's posting to pelathais was affected by that assumption.

Brother David and I served together many years ago. I have never known him to be anything other than ethical and gentlemanly as related to our church and its members during those times. I left CO shortly before Brother David assumed the leadership of our committee and didn't keep up with him or his whereabouts. Obviously, we have no problem with Bro David at all...except I would obviously disagree with his present stance related to "traditional Pentecostalism!"

Nate is prevented from issuing his apology in person, but we both apologize to Brother David for bringing any cloud upon his character. We at CSFPC have never spoken any accusations against him at all and we regret the unfortunate misunderstanding.



I hope this clears everything up and ya'll can go back to your discussions.

Thanks "josh."

[Phil Stearns]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Welcome to the world of non-anonymity!

Yes, welcome.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Thank you so much.

Perhaps Brother David would share his email address with you so that holinesspeaks can send an apology directly to him.

Thanks Renda, but josh's explanation is sufficient. Nate doesn't owe me any obeisance. And I take back the "slime ball" remarks and apologize for that. holinesspk appears to have been motivated by a misunderstanding and not really playing the "False Accusation" game as it appeared.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Brother David

I'm new to AFF and I wanted to say... oh, ok. Start over...

For reasons that may occur to a couple of people here, I have decided to drop the pretense of anonymity and just post openly.

For the record... my wife of the past twenty-six and a half years "approves" of me posting openly, in fact she was puzzled as to why I was anonymous.

The reason for that is because of the enjoyment and sense of fulfillment she receives from singing and ministering in UPC and Apostolic circles. I was concerned that my online rants and ravings might be construed as a reflection of her own beliefs. It never honestly occurred to me that I might simply cause folks to pray more fervently for her!

For the record... and those who keep score, she is a bit more "TP" (typically Pentecostal) than I and even has some zeal for the lifestyle. I'm a bit more worn out with it and tired of trying to justify things that are clearly not Scriptural.

Recently an AFF poster made some insinuative accusations against me. He refused to be specific and went on about the secrets that he could divulge if only he felt like it. That kind of slimeball posting makes me sick, so here I am. I'll change the avatar tonight when I get home.

If anyone at the First Pentecostal Church on Monica Drive and Hancock Expressway in Colorado Springs has any charges or accusations to bring... bring 'em on. I'm still waiting for your pastor to man up, but I suspect he probably never got my message. Efficient system.

My experiences with the United Pentecostal Church (FPC is now former UPC) has been largely fruitful and rewarding. However I have frequently witnessed this type of behavior - lying allegations, false charges and innuendo followed by silence when it comes time to put up.

I won't flatter myself into thinking very many people will recognize me nor probably even care all that much about who I am. I'm just sort of stepping out from behind the curtain for the reasons I have mentioned above. When I was forced to leave the UPC, I did so with my integrity intact. I have maintained my integrity. If anyone has a question, please feel free to PM me. I'll try to help out the best I can.

If you're on facebook, my profile is here: http://www.facebook.com/#/profile.ph...&id=1356644865

I'm hesitant to use my full name a lot because I've seen how well the admins here manage the Google account.

David

You sownd like a crusimatic are ya? You one of dem slimy heartics we's warned about by our paster?

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Brother David

Thanks Renda, but josh's explanation is sufficient. Nate doesn't owe me any obeisance. And I take back the "slime ball" remarks and apologize for that. holinesspk appears to have been motivated by a misunderstanding and not really playing the "False Accusation" game as it appeared.

Your graciousness is......well, gracious. But even though there was a so-called "misunderstanding", to take a story (which shouldn't have been told in the first place) and assume that it's you, without knowing for sure who it was, is, well, slimeballish to me. And even if he knew who it was, to go public and demean the character of another person just because you disagree with his point of view, is most definitely slimeballish. Personally, I'm sick of Christians who do this to each other.