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Re: Winterfire 2010
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Originally Posted by TroubleMaker
So I guess my point is, if you don't know FOR SURE whether or not you're absolutely correct and the trinitarian is absolutely incorrect, then why bother discussing the issue at all? And I agree....when Walter Martin asked the simple question, "Am I your brother?" and NA Urshan choked on the question and couldn't, or the life of him, figure out how to answer the question, he certainly did not appear to be a scholar.
Do you really expect Bob, who doesn't even know where the book of Acts is in the bible, to figure out the godhead BEFORE he goes to church, when we, who have been going to church all our life, STILL haven't figured it out? You're saying that going to church and THEN researching the bible is backwards?
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I'm saying that if people would try to figure God out before they try to figure out religion, we'd be a lot better off.
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So three basic questions:
1) Do you know FOR SURE that your Godhead doctrine is correct?
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I know for sure that the things I'm sure about are correct.
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2) Do you know FOR SURE that the trinitarian Godhead doctrine is incorrect? (knowing for sure that it is, would require you knowing for sure that yours IS correct, it seems)
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It is [incorrect] as most explain it, although there are a few that have explanations similar to ours, and it falls into semantics. (Especially among those who are largely ignorant of the creed and dogma, and don't make attempts to defend it.)
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3) If you are unable to answer the first two questions in the affirmative, then can anyone know and if not, what's the point of obsessing over these uncertain doctrines?
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I can answer in the affirmative, and I STILL don't see why that means I can't respect other believers as Christians.
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