
02-10-2010, 01:29 PM
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Re: UPCI
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Originally Posted by jfrog
I believe it is best to be silent where the bible is silent. The apostles words over baptism are not recorded. Clearly this implies that what is said over baptism is not very important...
If you want to take acts 2:38 and acts 19:5 as both being the actual words spoken then I suggest you take acts 10:48 as being the actual words also. But if this is the case then in Acts 10:48 they said "in the name of the Lord" which is contrary to your insistence that the word Jesus must be said over baptism. Therefore I say that in either case, whether we take the accounts as the actual words of the apostles or whether we don't, that in both cases your position that the word Jesus must be issued at baptism is not found in the bible.
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So then what is the name of the Lord ?
What is the name of the Father ?
What is the name of the Holy Ghost ?
What is the name of the Son ?
Why would it be recorded in scripture if it were not important what was spoken over baptism ? To come to your conclusion you are having to ignore scripture just for the sake of ignoring the whole point of the conversation. If you have no answers then simply say so.
I see Jesus commanding them to baptize in the "name" of the Father, the "name" of Son and the "name" of the Holy Spririt. The diciples response to this command was Acts 2:38 as well as others I have posted. In light of the obvious I just cant seem to understand not only why Jesus name baptism seems so confusing to some but why bother with the argument against it.
EDIT: you answered some of my post before I got it posted with your EDIT. Thanks.
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