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Originally Posted by oletime
For the record DA ?, not that im in agreement with Bd 's attemps to argue this so called hmh, But yes i would say tek has been guilty of a lot, he and his followers have had another missionary put in jail with false accusations,he was beaten terribly(this is how they roll over there, you lie to a goverment offial and they seize you immediately) and they have stolen property , property that was acquired and buildings were built on, by churches in this country , by making accusations and telling lies ,This property was then seized (i cant remember the name of this missionary, but i have heard him speak more then once ) He refused to accept the teachings of tek and has garnered a huge following of people who have left tek and his followers.
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Originally Posted by BobDylan
FTR Big Flatus, I was not speaking of immorality as in sexual immorality... i was speaking of the types of immoral acts oletyme was speaking of. I have heard first hand reports from pastors who I have preached for who are in direct connection with the Ethiopia work, what was left of it after Tek exited, and the persecution of those who reject Tek's "bishoprick" and teaching. I have no evidence particularly... and I am not on any kind of effort to discredit him, have no agenda against him, no dog in the fight. Are you a Tek supporter? If so, your attempts to parallel Tek with LS has lost all credibility, in that you seem to be advocating the type of treatment toward LS that you disdained toward Tek. Speak of hypocrisy! lol....
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You have to be kidding me ... here we are on page 18 of 3 threads about this discussing admittedly plausible interpretations of what LS HAS SAID ... AS WE POUR OVER RAW VIDEO, AUDIO, TRANSCRIPTS, QUOTES, BOOK EXCERPTS FROM RR and other anectdotal testimony ... and I am to take the word of second-hand, anonymous posters as to your innuendo, rumor and hearsay to the accusations you've made on a public forum about a minister who in your paradigm is Jesus name baptized and Holy Ghost filled ... with out a shred of prima facie evidence ... about his alleged IMMORALITY AND UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR
like a court docket, a newspaper article, etc. for "analysis".
I don't know Oletyme or TEK from a hole in the wall but please hold yourself to the same standard of "scholarly" citation. You say you have made no effort to discredit him after you have publicly stated he has acted IMMORRALLY and UNETHICALLY?
Keeping in mind that such an accusation was not even mundane to the the topic or necessary to throw out except as an ad-hominem attack.
TEK was brought up to show the absurdity of your "greater context and purview" argument where you admittedly think the ends justify the means ... however we are to ignore the "unfortunate", "whacky", "problematic", "misspoken", "poorly presented" details in between. And accept your uninformed apologizing for the DOCUMENTABLE words of a teacher who is being emulated by the masses.
I have had enough insight, especially in South America, to national works and big brother meddling to know that when it comes to these issues there are two sides to every story and then there is the TRUTH. Schisms are never "clean" or "antiseptic".
You sir, have defamed this man with innuendo and UNSUBSTANTIATED evidence ... while pointing fingers at those who choose to put LS public message to the fire ... while not attacking him personally.
Again, BD, will you SUBSTANTIATE THE ACCUSATIONS YOU HAVE MADE AGAINST AN APOSTOLIC MINISTER?
So far here is your evidence for your personal attack and attempt to tear down this man's ministry:
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