Read Segraves on "letting down hair"

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You made this whole thing about what LS teaches and the authority about obedience. You obfuscate the fact or spin doctor it, that LS makes authority NOT about obedience but about uncut hair. Again this is made acutely obvious when he cites resources on witchcraft and the hair. He does NOT make it merely about obedience for if he did he would in his sermons on obedience to other issues like not committing adultery, mention that if you are obedient you will have authority.

You have failed to acknowledge the point I have made about the context of 1 Cor 11. The passage itself relates the acts of obedience, in uncut hair for women and cut hair to men, directly to obedience and submission. These principles and instructions, in this context, are completely inextricable. Your attempt to disassociate uncut hair on women and short hair on men from submission is not relavent in the context of 1 Cor 11. Any message on 1 Cor 11 that deals with authority, submission, and uncut hair, it is implied that uncut hair for women and short for men relates directly to individual sumbission. This is the fact. Your attempt to disassociate uncut hair from submssion in your analysys of LS's message is not consistent with the context of his texts, and is the sole reason for your blatant misunderstanding of his points. His messages are about submission to God's order of creation, and primarily in the act of obedience of uncut hair on women, and short for men. This is an inextricable consideration, no matter how much you try to disassociate it for your own purposes and agenda.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Everyone here realizes that the only reason you resorted to sophomoric attempts at being pejorative above is you really have a losing case.

My attempts at "pejorative" are sophmoric because I have a "losing case"... but your attempts are an "effort to expose false doctrine"? ROFL... good one! As you said previously: "good grief"! lol...

Originally Posted by Praxeas

prove it! This man, BobDylan, has made several assertions and has been asked to prove it and not once has he. Further the context here is not about hair but headship. BD doesn't catch the error he just made as well...if it's really about what you just said and this is the correlation with authority, Paul would have argued WE have authority because WE obey this law of short hair on men and uncut hair on women. He does not.

Paul is the one who writes of uncut hair on women and short hair on men in the context of headship, authority, order. He is the one that made the direct correlation between uncut hair on women and short hair on men and these principles... not LS. LS uses the context of the text to make his points, that uncut hair on women and short hair on men are directly associated with authority and God's order.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Quote him please.

I'll do what I can when I can. At this moment, I only have one clip transcribed, from about 21:00 to 24:00 from the Memphis meeting. I will attempt to have the Visalia meeting transcribed soon in an effort to have more information regarding LS's points. Give me time here. Thanks...

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The issue isn't that women should obey and not cut their hair. The context however in 1cor is headship and order of creation, the hair stuff follows THAT.

No problem with this statement...

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Quote him please. You say "implied" but really that to everyone here means "This is how Im spinning it". It's your assertion but you can assert all day long. You might as well assert LS was teaching that green cows with wings fly out of his rear end on the last day of each month...PROOF is essential. All you are doing is telling us what LS "really meant"...good grief I can spin what anyone says...that does not make it true. Was LS really, in your opinion, THAT vague, that you can tell us what he IMPLIED contrary to what it seems to everyone else here? Not to mention the myriads of women OUT THERE that are posting how they have supernatural power in their hair, that it's not their obedience but their uncut hair?

What I am doing is "spin", but what you are doing is "accurate analysis"? lol... You are spinning LS's statements as much as anyone else, for your own purposes and agenda... whatever that may be.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

LS does NOT say ANY TIME "Ladies, you have POWER because you have obeyed"

He didn't say those words verbatim. But that doesn't mean he didn't imply it! It is implies by the way he developed the message about the order of creation, submission to that order, and the immediate context of 1 Cor 11 makes the acts of obedience of uncut hair for women and short hair for men inextricable from authority in the spirit realm because of individual devotion and obedience.

But then again, he also didn't say he believed the "substance of hair has magical powers", but that doesn't stop you and DA from implying that he did or that he believes as much! Thus the indentifier "Holy Magic Hair".