Noah and the Ark

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

We have Prophets today. What if "God tells them" a War is the answer?

That question was answered in my previous post. The nation of Israel broke the covenant and God has now offered a New Covenant that is opened to all peoples, not just a nation. Today under the New Covenant God isn’t dealing with a geopolitical “nation”, God is dealing with a called out people, a church, comprised of all nations. We are called to be a kingdom of peace wherein God alone is King. We exemplify the Messianic message to the world; our mission isn’t to advance a nation or national agenda. If a “prophet” were to rise and tell a President to “go to war” by some oracle of God we’d know he was a false prophet because that isn’t the covenantal paradigm that God is working from today.

You say, God alone has that authority, and that He (God) gave this man the "Green Light" to genocide a Nation.

Yes, all things belong to God and God may do with them as he so chooses. Thank him that he’s chosen to operate according to the New Covenant.

First, we have no way of proving Samuel actually heard God say this. We only trust an ancient writing that declares this, just like Noah and the Ark.

We have no way of knowing if there ever really was a Samuel. The entire Bible could be a mythical tale of morals and outdated anecdotes for all we “know”. So if it’s so important that we don’t know if Samuel actually heard God as the Word says… why believe ANY of it? Why not “live it up”?

Now that these ancient writings are under the spotlight of Truth, History, and our own experiences, we find many problems which present the past as possibly being misled or exaggerated.

If you’re right I know that it’s impossible for one to rise from the dead… so who needs Jesus? Christianity becomes the biggest FRAUD on earth. Why are you wasting your precious time on a Christian forum? If the Bible can’t be believed that means one is a fool for believing that Jesus rose from the dead. It becomes highly dishonest and unethical to be a “Christian”. It would be more honest and ethical to be seeking the pleasures that our world has to offer and being totally open about it. It makes the man on the bar stool getting his buzz after work on a Friday night arguing that there is no proof of God far more honest and respectable than being a Pastor wherein you perpetuate mythical stories and extort money from people.

Like I said, if the genocide was in your backyard and you beheld that absolute murder and slaughter of these helpless people, you may question whether a man heard from God or not.

I was military. I’ve seen my share of this world’s horror. I look at it like this… first God was dealing with a nation, second God originally fought there battles for them until they drifted from him and were told to fight their battles on their own, thirdly if a human leader can see a necessity for war… certainly God could.

You still left most of my presented problems on past post's, alone.

I think you’re not READING. For example the very first question you presented in this post was previously answered by implication. Did you even read my post?

It's easy to say things; it's another thing to live them.

I agree. Have you ever killed a man NotForSale? Do you know what it’s like? Do you know what it’s like to think, “That wasn’t too bad.”, after your first kill? This is a vile, fallen, and sinful world. God used extreme measures because sadly all too often they are necessary. Think of WWII. We dropped the bomb on Japan and killed multiplied thousands of civilians. Japan surrendered unconditionally saving multiplied thousands of American lives and perhaps even our freedom. Was it terrible? Yes. Did it feel good? No. Was it necessary? Yes. Long term more lives were saved than were lost. I know many get squeamish at the idea of God demanding entire nations be killed. However, consider the thousands of years of blood shed between the Jews and the Arabs. Hypothetically how many lives would have been saved down through the ages had Israel wiped out the Ishmaelits a couple thousand years before Christ?

Sometimes the unthinkable is the most humane thing to do when faced with no win situations on this fallen world.