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Old 04-13-2010, 04:55 PM
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread

I can't believe you guys let Rev Randy sucker you into some of the exchanges on this thread! However there were some very good responses to his rant.....er observations.

I found it interesting that it seemed very important to him that you could not tell if a lot of the people at the JCM reunion were Nazarene or Baptist. Apparently an outward dress code
is very important to him to be able to indentify someone as a Christian or not. Something you do not find Jesus doing at any time in his earthly ministry.

I challenge anyone to find Jesus preaching or teaching about a dress code being what identifies a Christian. Now he did talk about the fruit of the Spirit. Something not preached or taught about near as much as no makeup or jewelry.

The women were modest and ladylike. One interesting observation I made had to do with one of the women wearing a dress while singing on the platform. She had rather shapely legs and the thought crossed my mind that the "ungodly" slacks some of the women were wearing had caused me to not give a second glance to their legs where this woman who would have met the REV RANDY DRESS CODE did.

I think Rev Randy falls into that group of Pentecostals who has never been able to seperate friendship from approval. There is no doubt in my mind that TLC does not approve of my wifes dress code (I am fine of course) nor the church we attend. However he is smart enough to know that we don't equate his friendship with his approval. This is the area where the UPC and like can be cultic. Thank heavens not all though.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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