Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffrey
More from Augsburg:
False also and dishonoring Christ is this, that men do not sin who,
without grace, do the commandments of God [who keep the commandments
of God merely in an external manner, without the Spirit and grace in
their hearts].
(Was there already a whole thread about Augsburg?)
My question is to understand how you view man's (perceived) role in salvation.
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Let me put it to you this way....
God according to scripture and prophecy gives us a heart of flesh so that we will do his commandments.
1) I don't believe in total depravity
2) our works are not the source of justice for our sin. the atonement of christ is.
3) our obedience has a direct affect on our relationship and standing with Christ. We are either true to the purchase price for eternal life or not and we will be judged faithful or wanting.
4) Our obedience is not the source of grace though grace is only given to the humble
5) We cannot receive the promise without obedience and judged "just" to our call and then chosen from those whom are called.
6) It is by the power of his Spirit we become perfect in our work instead of the reasoning and wading the waters of confusion of the mind of how to obey God's law.
7) The Spirit bears witness with our spirit if we are being responsive to him and if not it is unto the flesh and death. God cannot have pleasure or dwell(have relationship) with a heart at enmity with him. This is basic relationship law. The Spirit will still compel to turn but dwelling is a matter of synergistic communion.