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Originally Posted by Sam
There may be more to it than their not wanting to work a secular job.
Maybe they have a call of God and they can never be satisfied working a secular job. Because of the way God wired them, they HAVE to be in ministry. Sure, they are flawed, but aren't we all?
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Sam, this is bologna.
We're all flawed. The Spiritual man must kep the flesh under subjection, and none of us have that mastered. however there is a big difference between being not yet made perfect, and running around living a secret life filled with adultery, homosexuality (paying for sex with other men at that) and rampant drug use that would put some street junkies to shame, THEN within a short time of being exposed, all of a sudden everything is all right?
I'm sick of this anything goes Christianity. I think its time for someone to take a stand in the church. There's alot of folks who think taking a stand means women wear dresses, and men shave their beards, but thats not what God's concerned with.
however I am quite certain that God is concerned with people bringing shame to the name of Christ, which is why the Word of God specifically condemns many of the actions of TH. Lying, adultery, fornication, effeminate, etc. Its like reading
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 yet it doesn't seem to matter to some of you folks.
Can TH be saved, I would say if he truly repents, my opinion would be yes. But He should repent and be greatful to God for the grace and mercy of God. But Pastor, I don't think so, and I don't think there is any scripture for someone to pastor after doing such things, and being found out by the world AFTER they are a Christian.
There's a HUGE difference in being a liar, adulterer, fornicator, abuser, etc. as a sinner, then converting VERSES being a well known "man of God" who garners national attention for doing all of those things.
And again, its not like He backslid, went under the radar for a while and after sitting under another ministry and being evaluated for a while came back. He came back almost as quickly as He left.
As for the call of God. Maybe God does have a call on his life, the gifts of God are without repentance. I don't believe that if a minister sins God takes the call or burden out of their heart, but they must face the reality that they have disqualified themselves from the ministry.
Again I repeat, I don't think David should be considered in an issue like this. The question isn't can this man repent and find forgiveness, the question is does he have business having the spiritual authoridy/guidance over other believers, including new converts and babes in Christ. I say absolutely not.
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