NOW, When Is Someone Saved?

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

NOW, let's get away from DA's belief since he is not here to defend himself. When do YOU believe someone is saved? If 3 stepper's disagree with you, are they teaching false doctrine?

If ANYONE cheapens God's grace by creating formula and systematic steps, adding that one can only merit God's grace and saving power if they do XYZ, they are mangling the entire Story of God.

This is, in fact, false doctrine. Inside churches where this is taught, there are still many people who profess Jesus as LORD, manifest their belief by a life lived in Christ, etc... But I worry for those who promote this heresy of steps. It ends up playing out in almost every area of their theology (not just their soteriology).

But this is a nice deflection. You are adding-to salvation -- we would say someone is saved without your add-ons, providing they come to Christ believing that He alone saves them. The reverse is not true from your perspective to those who preach faith alone. Or is it?