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Old 10-20-2007, 05:48 PM
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Actaully, it kinda goes like this...

The "Ultra Cons", as you so call them, have been on the verge of disaffiliating for quite a while here, and this is due to the fact that if we aren't going to participate in their activities, thier functions, then why pay dues to be apart of something we do not condone!?!? And also pay money to be apart of it? The resolution 4 just pushed them over the edge. We just have backbone to stand up for whats right!
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:50 PM
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I confess all this techno stuff is over my head. But the principle is the same. I don't have a television, or have Hollywood commercial style video, or watch anything like that on DVD or anywhere else.
I'm with you elder.
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:28 PM
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Actaully, it kinda goes like this...

The "Ultra Cons", as you so call them, have been on the verge of disaffiliating for quite a while here, and this is due to the fact that if we aren't going to participate in their activities, thier functions, then why pay dues to be apart of something we do not condone!?!? And also pay money to be apart of it? The resolution 4 just pushed them over the edge. We just have backbone to stand up for whats right!
No you have "backbone" to do what you THINK Is right, as misguided as it is. I respect your right to be misguided, wrong and even divisive. I think it is unnecessary though
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:36 PM
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I confess all this techno stuff is over my head. But the principle is the same. I don't have a television, or have Hollywood commercial style video, or watch anything like that on DVD or anywhere else.
The principle of VIDEO and TV is sitting in your lap, as it were. Yes the COMPUTER has the same ability to be a TV as it does to allow you to argue with other people on internet forums.

BTW....Best Buy will no longer be selling Analog TVs...They will sell only digital TVs...what is a Digital TV? It's a computer with a flat screen monitor and way of receiving digital content....

Surprise surprise but that is what a Desktop is or a laptop. Soon you won't need cable or an antennae....as it is many computers have the ability to plug a cable in to from your cable provider or satellite and watch stuff on the TV. But now broadcasters are sending out their content over the internet.

If Ultra Cons who have preached against owning a TV do not do the same with computers and internet then I would say that is very inconsistant.

Not only that, those that preached against all video devices like VCRs or a TV to watch them on who OK cell phones, Computers, laptops are being inconsistant too. As noted before. Most newer (last couple years) have DVD players built in. They also have software to play mpegs and other movie medias. You can play them on the CD or on the Hard drive or streaming over the internet.

You have a choice if you want to watch TV on a TV. You have a choice of what to watch. Simply owning a TV does not mean someone is sinning. Having cable does not mean someone is sinning...not anymore than being on the internet and paying fees that go to companies that eventually own and upkeep the means of broadcasting hard core porn and allowing for downloaded content even kiddie porn.

And some would rather pull their bucks out of the UPC because the UPC now allows the ability to broadcast the gospel over it.....
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:37 PM
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No you have "backbone" to do what you THINK Is right, as misguided as it is. I respect your right to be misguided, wrong and even divisive. I think it is unnecessary though

Prax, really dude that was hilaroius! come on now
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:46 PM
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Prax, really dude that was hilaroius! come on now
Oh sorry. I have to be careful about posting what I REALLY think sometimes....as rude as it may sound
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:47 PM
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yeah and my kids arent content with the books i read to them when they were 3 or 4 years old

No one should fault you for holding fast to your convictions and i would never mock it. in fact, i understand the conviction against hollywood- it's pretty obvious what their agenda is. but just remember this. Time and circumstances has a way of changing a lot of us and i say this in all due respect, but you may have to eat your words later in life. I have famliy who years ago use to preach agasint cadillacs in the 60s but 20 years later they had one sitting in their drive way.Incidently, it caused them a lot of grief from church people.
I remember when they use to preach against going to secular college. some of these same pastor's kids ended up with degrees and good jobs while saints struggled from pay check to pay check all because they obeyed the pastor. BUUUUUUUT! he changed his mind when his kids OR grandkids came along.

I have family members who hide their heads in shame at some of the stuff they preached many years ago BUT NO ONE could tell them otherwise then!! they preached against wearing Red, open toe shoes, playing marbles, reading a comic book, you name it

again, I'm just saying be careful because in 10 or 20 years technology is going to out flank all of us.
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:53 PM
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Thad....true.

When you think about it...just look how technology has progressed from just 5 years ago.
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:59 PM
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The principle of VIDEO and TV is sitting in your lap, as it were. Yes the COMPUTER has the same ability to be a TV as it does to allow you to argue with other people on internet forums.

BTW....Best Buy will no longer be selling Analog TVs...They will sell only digital TVs...what is a Digital TV? It's a computer with a flat screen monitor and way of receiving digital content....

Surprise surprise but that is what a Desktop is or a laptop. Soon you won't need cable or an antennae....as it is many computers have the ability to plug a cable in to from your cable provider or satellite and watch stuff on the TV. But now broadcasters are sending out their content over the internet.

If Ultra Cons who have preached against owning a TV do not do the same with computers and internet then I would say that is very inconsistant.

Not only that, those that preached against all video devices like VCRs or a TV to watch them on who OK cell phones, Computers, laptops are being inconsistant too. As noted before. Most newer (last couple years) have DVD players built in. They also have software to play mpegs and other movie medias. You can play them on the CD or on the Hard drive or streaming over the internet.

You have a choice if you want to watch TV on a TV. You have a choice of what to watch. Simply owning a TV does not mean someone is sinning. Having cable does not mean someone is sinning...not anymore than being on the internet and paying fees that go to companies that eventually own and upkeep the means of broadcasting hard core porn and allowing for downloaded content even kiddie porn.

And some would rather pull their bucks out of the UPC because the UPC now allows the ability to broadcast the gospel over it.....
They also will need to be adding cell phones to the list.

Within a few years, ALL cell phones will have streaming video capability (some do already) which includes the ability to watch TV.

Furthermore US phones will be able to receive porn vids. It is predicted to go from a zero to $6 BILLION industry within a year.

Guess to be consistent ALL will be getting rid of their cell phones as well?
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Old 10-20-2007, 11:30 PM
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History channel. The learning Channel. There are many that are informative. Do you all preach against getting the newspaper too? Many have very innocuous commercials. I avoid those commercials just like when I go to a website and not look at the commercials. Or just like I listen to the news on the radio and not listen to the commercials...or read a magazine or whatever.

Everything serves a purpose. But if it's wrong at all, why compromise? You've learned to discern between what content on the Internet you will allow and what you won't. Same can be done with TV
Television as we know it is going out. The needed bandwidth and storage capacities are going on-line to change everything. Many of these changes are already in the works.

In the near future the standard TV fare will be available on demand and streamed to the home, car, handheld device or restaraunt booth.

People who claim to have had divine revelations with eternal pronouncements about television are going to look rather silly when they have to use a "TV" to order a meal.
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