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Old 01-07-2020, 02:06 PM
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I think most everyone KNOWS what I believe about women in the ministry...Today at my house (they have been here over a week visiting with us) . are a group of preachers from the state of Minas Gerias...Fruits of a part of my labor in the gospel. (of course a part others helped including men) . They all call me mother and wrote me a beautiful letter thanking me for helping them be saved. Am I a woman pastor? No, a thousand times no...that is not my calling or as some say not my cup of tea... Do I believe that women can preach and pastor? Yes, I do. I can only speak for myself and not for other ladies. I have never had a clash with men and respect them as men. I took care of 3 different churches on the mission field when there was no man qualified however since being a pastor is not my calling as soon as God sent a man I turned the churches over to them. I don't even like to set on the platforms which many times I am asked to sit with those on the platforms....that too is not my cup of tea...I have a chair in our home church (not on the platform) where I sit every service. I do know some precious ladies that are pastors in many parts of our world. I have not said much because my husband had rather me not write much on this subject here because of something that was said long ago that he felt was offense to God...and we would only go around and around. I grew up in the Holmes and Taylor churches and both believed in women 100 percent. I have many friends that believe both ways...I can disagree and still be a friend...So many other things we agree on...I will always believe in women such as Sister AO Holmes, Sister Dawson, Sister Mary Williams and others like them...
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No scripture, no argument with a defense with book, chapter, and verse. Just personal achievement. But, can’t every schism and denomination bring such an argument based on emotion? How they did XY and Z for God and country and therefore they must be right? I know such and such isn’t Biblical but now little Antonio has shoes and can read the Bible. Don’t get me wrong, feeding and clothing children in poverty conditions is praise worthy. To be commended. Yet, what we are talking about is not about good deeds which everyone from Mormon to Atheist is achieving. We are talking about what is the Biblical model for the minister who is over and leading the married men of a church family. Jesus chose 12 Apostles not one was a female. Did He not know that somewhere in earth’s future that there would be a need for female preachers? I guess not, because male leadership is what He chose. Paul is quoted saying that he wouldn’t tolerate a woman taking the authority over a man through teaching. So, there you have it. Argument should be finished right there. But sadly it’s not. We just get it moved to the side to make room for how many home runs Sister Foofoofnick belted out. How godly Sister Biddy Joe would float 3 inches off the floor while she ministered to the church family. Sounds nice, but the Word is the final judge and jury. No matter how much Old Sister Seesaw would pray gold fillings in PeePaw’s dentures we must allow the Word to light the way, wether we like it or not.
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No scripture, no argument with a defense with book, chapter, and verse. Just personal achievement. But, can’t every schism and denomination bring such an argument based on emotion? How they did XY and Z for God and country and therefore they must be right? I know such and such isn’t Biblical but now little Antonio has shoes and can read the Bible. Don’t get me wrong, feeding and clothing children in poverty conditions is praise worthy. To be commended. Yet, what we are talking about is not about good deeds which everyone from Mormon to Atheist is achieving. We are talking about what is the Biblical model for the minister who is over and leading the married men of a church family. Jesus chose 12 Apostles not one was a female. Did He not know that somewhere in earth’s future that there would be a need for female preachers? I guess not, because male leadership is what He chose. Paul is quoted saying that he wouldn’t tolerate a woman taking the authority over a man through teaching. So, there you have it. Argument should be finished right there. But sadly it’s not. We just get it moved to the side to make room for how many home runs Sister Foofoofnick belted out. How godly Sister Biddy Joe would float 3 inches off the floor while she ministered to the church family. Sounds nice, but the Word is the final judge and jury. No matter how much Old Sister Seesaw would pray gold fillings in PeePaw’s dentures we must allow the Word to light the way, wether we like it or not.
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Acts 6:2-4
[2] Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables. [3] Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business. [4] But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.
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Brother, I know you aren’t going there. Okay. You’re just wanting to toss me a softball? What does this passage mean to you? Allow me to exegete.

First of all you started your quote in the middle of a story. Allow me to back up a bit. Let’s go to the first verse.

What was the “business” that the seven “men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom” were to tend to?

What business could be so crucially important that it would take up the time, effort and attention of SEVEN pillars of the church?

The answer is hiding in plain sight, in the verses that you igno . . . Uh, pardon me, skipped over. Allow me . . .

Acts 6 King James Version (KJV)

1 And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration.

What?! Can you believe that the widows merited so much consideration? Please understand. This was the church at Jerusalem. They were likely mostly Hebrews who were still tithing, according to the law. So the Hebrew widows were getting taken care of, as they were certainly entitled to share in the tithe. (Ironically the apostles were not Levites, so it would have been illegal for them to partake of the tithe).

Of course the Grecian widows were not legally entitled to tithes, as the Hebrew’s widows would be and had likely “fallen through the cracks” so to speak. This seems to be the issue that was being addressed.

At this point we will pick up where you began, with the solution to the problem that was so critical that it merited being included in the book of Acts of the Apostles. This is what the early apostolic church did to solve this serious issue.

Are we apostolic?

Brother, I’m not trying to keep score or anything but, how many good brethren in your church are delegated to the very important work of ministering to the widows, daily? You don’t have to answer, (because you wouldn’t, anyway).

I hope it’s at least seven? Because it’s the apostolic thing to do! Now this is where you began.

2 Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables.

3 Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.

4 But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.

5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:

6 Whom they set before the apostles: and when they had prayed, they laid their hands on them.

Brother, did it ever occur to you, that we know who was on the widows ministrations committee, because they are named, but we have to guess who the pastor of the church at Jerusalem was?

So, allow me to expand on one of these great brethren. Stephen was performing great wonders and miracles, well let me copy and paste . . .

8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.

Uh, brother, isn’t it amazing that this good brother had time to perform many miracles, Aaaand he was on the widows committee? Incredible! But, at least he wasn’t having to preach, because he sure wouldn’t have time to prepare a sermon or anything like that.

Except that he did. . . Allow me . . .

9 Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia and of Asia, disputing with Stephen.

10 And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he spake.

In fact, he was such a great ANNOINTED speaker that, the men who wanted to kill him,

10 . . . were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he spake.

12 And they stirred up the people, and the elders, and the scribes, and came upon him, and caught him, and brought him to the council,

And the Council ?. . .

15 And all that sat in the council, looking stedfastly on him, saw his face as it had been the face of an angel.

Brother, I’m glad you brought this subject up. The ministry of Stephen was to the widows, primarily. But he didn’t let that stop him from ministering to others also.

The altar is open brother. Are you feeling convicted?

I HOPE you are NOT taking tithes from widows, because that would be


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Old 01-08-2020, 06:40 AM
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I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. With tithe, offering, and now even women preachers do what you feel. Your a Pastor, if you feel tithe is wrong don’t accept it. You are more than welcome to pay for the church, utilities, taxes etc all by yourself, the local assembly falls on your shoulders, not mine. Your not going to convince me otherwise, you can bring up widows, widows indeed, fatherless (for which I am) orphans, and such like all you want, instead of showing us how you are on this forum, go show all that wisdom, restraint, and knowledge to the people you Pastor, they’ll enjoy it more.
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I think most everyone KNOWS what I believe about women in the ministry...Today at my house (they have been here over a week visiting with us) . are a group of preachers from the state of Minas Gerias...Fruits of a part of my labor in the gospel. (of course a part others helped including men) . They all call me mother and wrote me a beautiful letter thanking me for helping them be saved. Am I a woman pastor? No, a thousand times no...that is not my calling or as some say not my cup of tea... Do I believe that women can preach and pastor? Yes, I do. I can only speak for myself and not for other ladies. I have never had a clash with men and respect them as men. I took care of 3 different churches on the mission field when there was no man qualified however since being a pastor is not my calling as soon as God sent a man I turned the churches over to them. I don't even like to set on the platforms which many times I am asked to sit with those on the platforms....that too is not my cup of tea...I have a chair in our home church (not on the platform) where I sit every service. I do know some precious ladies that are pastors in many parts of our world. I have not said much because my husband had rather me not write much on this subject here because of something that was said long ago that he felt was offense to God...and we would only go around and around. I grew up in the Holmes and Taylor churches and both believed in women 100 percent. I have many friends that believe both ways...I can disagree and still be a friend...So many other things we agree on...I will always believe in women such as Sister AO Holmes, Sister Dawson, Sister Mary Williams and others like them...
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So then it is, in your view, permitted for a woman to hold spiritual authority over a man?
Like everyone she is open about her beliefs.
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I think everyone knows how I believe ...I believe in women preachers. I do not have time to discuss this fact...however if you want to know how I believe you know now...
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I think everyone knows how I believe ...I believe in women preachers. I do not have time to discuss this fact...however if you want to know how I believe you know now...
I do understand that you believe in women preachers.
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