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Old 03-26-2009, 03:11 PM
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?

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There is a very weird view afoot that says that hurting people live to be criticized. I think that it is easier for some to believe that hurting people WANT to hurt, that way things don't have to be faced. There might be a few weirdos in the world that are sadomasochists, but I think generally they are few. On the other hand, there are a lot of ostriches.
As a person who has been hurt a time or two in life, I have found that when I spend too much time on my hurt, it leads to bitterness and that only destroys me.

Telling a person to get over it, is the most compassionate thing a person can do.


Way too many times you find a person who is worrying over their hurt like a dog with a bone. They aren’t helping themselves, they aren’t helping others, they aren’t preventing themselves or others from repeating the behavior that got them in a mess in the first place.

We all know that hurt people tend to repeat behavior that leads to the same kind of hurt.

They aren’t sadomasochists (sp) they don’t like living in misery. They hate it. But that is the trap of misery! It prevents you from finding your way clear! THIS is the reality of bitterness. It blinds a person from seeing themselves and others as they truly are. It is a self inflected trap that the trapped hates as much as those watching.

In my humble opinion that is why the bible spends so much time on forgiveness. if you don’t forgive those that have wronged you, you will never be whole. The bible doesn’t spend near as much time telling us to ask forgiveness when we have wronged, as it does telling us to forgive those that have wronged us!
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Old 03-26-2009, 03:13 PM
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I'm not sure if it can be done, but if it's possible could admin. close or delete this thread I started. Contrary to what several might believe, I came here because I am broken and hurt and need restoration. It was never my intent to start a lot of Pastor/saint bashing . I don't believe in it nor do I condone it. I do not think I have been disrespectful of ministry or any one else during this forum. If you think otherwise, I am sorry. I guess I'm naive, I thought I might find some answers here or maybe prayer support. But instead many would rather sit and judge and insist that there is more to the story. This is the "story". For any who care, please pray for us.

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Please let's stop. To my brother who said it, you're right, this isn't a place to find the answer. So as God is showing me, the place for the answer to my questions will be found on my knees; and if I never know the answer to this, then, HE knows best.

As always, Peace, Sinatra

What do you know, I guess I just found my answer.
No. You were correct to express your concerns. Perhaps an analogy would be helpful...

I've never been hit by a bullet, but it's obviously a dramatic event, to say the least. I was watching "A Band of Brothers" a while back and one of the characters is seen being hit in the head with a glancing shot from the enemy. His steel WW2 helmet saves his life and in fact prevents further injury than just a concussion from the impact. The character was then shown on the ground being examined by a happily surprised medic who had to reassure the injured man that he was alright.

The blow to the stunned the soldier had left him dazed. He needed someone else to evaluate the extent of his injuries. Someone with experience in the matter of bullet wounds and concussions. He also needed repeated reassurances that he was going to be alright, such was the stunning effect of the impact.
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?

The wounds we receive in life can be similar in nature. Sometimes we just need to air it and see how it matches up (or doesn't match up) with the experiences of others. If nothing else, we can see that if others were able to heal from similar wounds then we can have more confidence about our own situation and possibly heal more quickly.
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Re: Why would a Pastor do this to me ?

Getting hurt is apart of the human condition and we can decide to get bitter or better.
If someone truly wrongs us ,well God keeps accurate books and He will settle the score.
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In a situation where silence is the norm, it's often difficult to tell if we were left with a mortal head wound or a concussion. That's why I personally oppose the policy of "SILENCE" that is endemic in Pentecostal / Apostolic churches. We need to be able to speak up and share our concerns - even if the answer is, "It was a glancing blow..." that information is much better than the unknown.
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Why did I know you would rise to the occassion?
Was just wanting to help out a friend, that's all.

That petition was for a 2% tithe increase, right?
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The wounds we receive in life can be similar in nature. Sometimes we just need to air it and see how it matches up (or doesn't match up) with the experiences of other. If nothing else, we can see that if others were able to heal from similar wounds then we can have more confidence about our own situation and possibly heal more quickly.
ding! ding! ding! We have a winner!

Preachers talk about situations with other preachers, and saints talk about situations with other saints. Sometimes you just want to know that you're not losing your mind!
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It is a weird view and not one that I espouse. But let's face it, internet Forums really are not the place to air a lot of things that get aired.
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It may not be the best place to get healing, but it's an awesome place to get the message out to others: you are not alone!
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Getting hurt is apart of the human condition and we can decide to get bitter or better.
If someone truly wrongs us ,well God keeps accurate books and He will settle the score.
Yes. And I think that maybe some of those who objected to Sinatra's post might feel better if they just realized that Sinatra wasn't attacking "UPC" or "Apostolic" pastors, or even the particular pastor in question. From her posts it seemed to me that she harbored no ill grudge - just bewilderment.

These things happen everywhere with everyone. It's common. The language and the details may be particular to our own group, but thats why she posted here and not on, say "Friends of Bill" or WorldNetDaily.

She was apparenty hoping to find someone here who might understand her confusion over the incident.
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Old 03-26-2009, 03:24 PM
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Getting hurt is apart of the human condition and we can decide to get bitter or better.
If someone truly wrongs us ,well God keeps accurate books and He will settle the score.
Not if you believe the Gospel! He'll (if the offender goes through the necessary step(s)) wipe the slate clean. All is forgiven. That's the whole point!

(Sometimes you guys seem to forget little details like that! )
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