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09-03-2012, 07:31 AM
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Re: Video Of Muslim Crucifiction
For someone with so much to say about "pedophiles" you are strangely silent on the subject at hand. You were politely invited to share your thoughts sport.
Have at it. I dont think you belong on this playground or in this particular sandbox but since you spoke up I reckon you should get a chance to take the floor.
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09-03-2012, 09:01 AM
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Re: Video Of Muslim Crucifiction
most likely wii is just a phony provacatuer who works in arabic countries for the oil companies ,thereby the" walks shtick", he married an arab so he has to do the manly support thing ,he hates america but loves to cash our checks.
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Who is any of us to tell any other person to leave?
We are a diverse group of individuals here.
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09-03-2012, 12:29 PM
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Re: Video Of Muslim Crucifiction
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As I said earlier this is Texas and we don't do things the same way here that they do in Isreal or Yemen.
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I think everyone knows we do things differently...isn't that WHY it's newsworthy?
what if we dragged every muslim out, legally, and beat them up...we can just say "well we do things differently here than you do over there"...The fact that it's done differently in one area or another is irrelevant.
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You must otherwise be numb if you actually believe I am either upset or surprised that you take the execution of good Muslims and use it to further your anti-Muslim agenda.
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So when good muslims are executed it does not upset you?
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My initial comment that this had nothing to do with religion stands
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Uh, no it doesn't. This was an action NOT by the Yemeni government but by an extremist group implementing Sharia Law.
Why do you crucify people? Was it an arbitrary decision by a secular government or is it a religious teaching of Islam? Beheadings? Amputations?
I already quoted the News source. The Yemen government never did such a thing. This was an Islamic based punishment in accordance with Shariah law
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and do not mistake my comments towards your ongoing anti-muslim agenda while pointing out your hypocracy as sympathy towards the current direction of Yemeni policy. Since you continue to make this about Islam and Muslims I guess I will bite. I have some free time.
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This is an amazing forum. We post negative stuff about Pentecostals and some people say we have an anti-Pentecostal agenda. We post stuff about Democrats and we have an anti-Democrat agenda etc etc..then WII comes along any time something is posted about Islam and we are also all anti-Muslim. LOL.
What Yemeni policy? This was NOT the actions of the Yemeni government. I already posted that information.
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Reminder: We talked about this a couple of years ago when you were babbling about how afraid you are that some tent-dwelling Yemeni was going to declare jihad on your small town from his mud hut and I tried to calm your fears by briefing you that on the very day that you were cowering in fear over your keyboard there were brave Muslim (Saudi) soldiers down at the Yemeni border (just) south of us who took up weapons and stood the wall for you. Rather than acknowledging this with a simple thanks you have again convinced yourself that those brave soldiers who were in fact protecting your hometown are actually, due to their religion, part of the problem rather than using the business end of their weapons to be part of the solution.
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Yeah right. Oh yeah I remember that "conversation". lol..it never happened. What a load of camel dung WII.
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Since you will not acknowledge this I will cheerfully do it for you. The fact that you cannot acknowledge it no matter what factual information is put in front of you only demonstrates your own fear and weakness.
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Hey, why not do a search and post the link to that "conversation" where I expressed fear of some tent dwelling Yemeni blah blah blah
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With that said I will pick through your posts and answer them:
And as more and more Muslims like yourself don't stand up against this kind of stuff why are you so upset and surprised that non-Muslims react this way? They are led to believe you are ALL for this kind of stuff because rather than speaking out against it, you seem to justify it.
Good Muslims gave their lives in a horrible way to stand up against the very thing that you apply across the board to all Muslims. At a minimum you owe them a simple thank you unless you are willing to pick up a weapon and stand the wall? Didnt think so. A simple thanks will suffice then.
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So in other words you won't stand up against these forms of brutal punishments or the actions of extremist groups. No of course not. That is what leads many people to believe that even the so called Moderate muslims really do support their actions. That is why threads like this continue with the presumption and all or most Muslims are the same. Why not just stand up and say "Muslims don't all agree with that kind of stuff. Most of us are Moderate and find the actions of those muslims deplorable."
You don't and it makes people really wonder and believe you support that kind of stuff. If you DO support it, then why not just post "Yes I agree with that stuff" instead of trying to turn the tables on those that post? Are you embarrassed at the behavior of Muslims in the middle east?
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You aren't very objective.
Objective? It is one thing to risk the death penalty in California, where you are 90% likely to die of old age. It is quite another to risk a sure death to stand up against the likes of Al'Qaeda. The Muslims who were executed standing up to them took their chances and do not deserve your anti-Muslim comments.
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But you can post anonymously HERE against Al Queda...actually the Muslims that, if they were really Muslims, died in such a way that WE find deplorable. And you have yet to stand up and AGREE. That is the problem. You turn everything into a blanket "anti-muslim" agenda issue when in reality I found THIS act against others deplorable whether they were Muslims or not. I find Muslim on Muslim violence as deplorable as any other but the METHOD in this situation was brutal yet you seemed to JUSTIFY it rather than agree that it was terrible.
That is what I had been saying. Had you just stood and posted "I find these executions deplorable" , you would have deserved an AMEN!
But you did not and you seemed to justify them when you lamented that the US also executes spys...nothing said about how brutal a 3 day crucifixion was from you
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Beheading is swift. Which is why it is the preferred method of execution.
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It's preferred because Islamic Law makes it one of the preferred methods. It's a bloody mess and if the guy doing it messes up it's rather brutal. It's done publicly and in addition these people might also often be crucified publicly for days for everyone else to see
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Saudi Arabian authorities beheaded four men in February 2007— Sangeeth Kumara, Victor Corea, Ranjith Silva and Sanath Pushpakumara.These four Sri Lankan workers were convicted in a Saudi Arabian court for an armed robbery committed in October 2004. Their deaths sparked reactions from the international human rights group Amnesty International, which called on the Saudi authorities to abolish the death sentence. The court also ruled that the bodies of the four workers be crucified for public view as an example for others. In most such cases the respective embassy is notified only after the execution, thereby eliminating chances for international or diplomatic protest
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decapitation
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Ole sparky was not always meaning rarely lethal the first time (LOL are you KIDDING me trying to describe how humane the electric chair was?
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Most of the time but again this is why most states of stopped using the chair.
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this is not the first time Prax that you have mistaken me for ignorant) which is why it has been retired.
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You are talking about a rarity.
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Firing squads were still used up to 3-4 years ago as ole Ronnie Lee found out back in 2010 (Utah? chilling thought - maybe the soon to be new president will start that back up?).
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Right, but not any more. I also find firing squads deplorable as I do the chair as I do CRUCIFIXION for 3 days. See, you take criticisms of how Muslims execute people as anti-Muslim yet I also am against the forms of executions that have occured in the US and in Europe.,.what "anti" does that make me?
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I guess it depends on how good a shot the triggerman is but it is suspected that it is possible that perhaps the first shot may not have gotten the job done the first time.
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Yes just as it depends on how good a swing the guy is who swings the sword. I find both rather primitive.
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Re: Video Of Muslim Crucifiction
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Using drugs gets you lashed. It is dealing or running drugs that gets you executed.
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Saudi Arabia has a criminal justice system based on a hardline and literal form of Sharia law due to Islam being the official state religion.
The death penalty can be imposed for a wide range of offences [2] including murder, rape, armed robbery, repeated drug use, apostasy, [3] adultery, [4] witchcraft and sorcery [5] and can be carried out by beheading with a sword, or more rarely by firing squad, and sometimes by stoning.
The 345 reported executions between 2007 and 2010 were all carried out by public beheading. [6] The last reported execution for sorcery took place in 2012. [7] There were no reports of stoning between 2007 and 2010, [6] but between 1981 and 1992 there were four cases of execution by stoning reported. [8]
Crucifixion of the beheaded body is sometimes ordered. [5] For example, in 2009, the Saudi Gazette reported that "An Abha court has sentenced the leader of an armed gang to death and three-day crucifixion (public displaying of the beheaded body) and six other gang members to beheading for their role in jewelry store robberies in Asir." [9]
In 2003, Muhammad Saad al-Beshi, whom the BBC described as "Saudi Arabia's leading executioner", gave a rare interview to Arab News. [3] He described his first execution in 1998: "The criminal was tied and blindfolded. With one stroke of the sword I severed his head. It rolled metres away...People are amazed how fast [the sword] can separate the head from the body." [3] He also said that before an execution he visits the victim's family to seek forgiveness for the criminal, which can lead to the criminal's life being spared. [3] Once an execution goes ahead, his only conversation with the prisoner is to tell him or her to recite the Muslim declaration of belief, the Shahada. [3] "When they get to the execution square, their strength drains away. Then I read the execution order, and at a signal I cut the prisoner's head off," he said. [3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital...n_Saudi_Arabia
Anyone carrying an amount of drugs for their personal use can be said to be a dealer
With one of the world’s highest rates of illegal drug use, particularly opium, it is not unknown for Iranian pilgrims to carry drugs for personal use while travelling to Saudi Arabia for the annual Haj pilgrimage in Mecca. Iranian media say many have been arrested after Saudi law enforcement officers found them to be possessing narcotics.
Officials in Iran have previously warned pilgrims that they could be hanged or beheaded if found carrying just one gram of illicit drugs in Saudi Arabia. They have advised users not to travel to the Haj before they have cured their addiction.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...g-7848550.html
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It's clearly written down. When a government writes down that drug smugglers get executed and drug smugglers try to smuggle them anyway and get executed for it (drug smuggling isnt btw mentioned in the Quran either so where do you get off tying this to religion again?)
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I already showed you. The crucifixions were done by an Islamic extremist group implementing SHARIA LAW.
BTW Do you agree drug dealers should be executed? Adulterers?
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then they fairly bought the ticket and took the ride. In your excitement to describe all the wonderful and humane ways to execute death penalty inmates I caught a tiny impression that, like the drone shots used to blow up people who have had no trial or hearing, you sleep peacefully in your belief that you are somehow different because you do the same thing more humanely.
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I don't personally subscribe to the death penalty except in the most extreme unrepented cases of murder, even then Im still undecided and unsettled at any method of execution. I also stated before, and you read it, I find it unsettling that any innocent person should die as a result of war. These things happen in all wars. What is happening in Afghanistan is a continued war with Taliban forces.
If a criminal comes out with a gun instead of surrendering and is a threat to the police and innocents then yes I support the necessary actions to immediately stop that person. Do I find it unsettling that person died? Yes
Same goes for the armed Taliban/Al Quada forces in Afghanistan and other areas. I find it bothersome that their deaths happened and had they surrendered so they can have a trial, their deaths would not have happened during a war. As I said, same thing happened when we fought Nazi Germany. Some gave up and others did not
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Now you have wandered away from the truth again. I am not sure if your statements are deliberate lies or if you really are unaware of what happened to captured German officers on the battlefield. Where did you say you are from? Public school education you said? Skipped history lessons? German officers or suspected spies were tied to a post, a black cloth was put over their head, a group of men lined up in front of them, and they were shot. It's posted in black and white all over utube dude. I considered copying and pasting the links but will leave you to google "execution of german officers" if you wish to educate yourself and you can choose to check for yourself or not. It's pretty graphic and I suspect some of your peers right here on this site may know anyway so you are free to educate yourself on your own time.
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So there were no German POWs eh? If any were summarily executed the way you said, that was against the geneva convention
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At least 30 members of an Afghan wedding party were killed and many more wounded when a U.S. plane bombed a village in the central province of Uruzgan today, Afghan officials and residents said.
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Right, that was a terrible mistake. Everyone involved admitted as much
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The bombing happened today in a village in the rugged, mountainous region 175 km (105 miles) northeast of the southern city of Kandahar, residents said.
They told the local Pashtu service of the BBC at least 120 people had been either killed or wounded.
A Defence Ministry official said celebrants were firing into the air, as is traditional in Pashtun weddings.
"There was no-one to help last night," resident Abdul Saboor told the BBC. "We managed to transfer some of the wounded to Kandahar in the morning. Some of the foreigners' choppers also came to help.
"There are no Taliban or al Qaeda or Arabs here. These people were all civilians, women and children."
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Yep, but again these were terrible mistakes and we own up to them and investigate them to make sure they don't happen again
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Show me where (I) or any Muslim you know support crucifixion of other Muslims who are doing the necessary to fight Al'Qaeda. Otherwise don't interpret my comments about you applying these actions to all Muslims (which is personally directed towards you) as support for what happened to those brave Muslims who gave their lives protecting YOU.
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YOU! How? By refusing to do as I suggested and stand up AGAINST what was reported on this thread. Instead you just post stuff what Americans have done or Christians have done. When I suggested you would do better to stand up against it you became even more belligerent. You justified as "they do things different over there"
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You don't like Jews do you?
I highly resent it when a Jew gets away with cold-blooded murder of an unarmed American woman without comment just because he is a Jew.
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I resent it when ANYONE does...why does it have to be "jews"? How comes Jews are "My buddies" but not yours?
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So no I do not like that one nor do I like the position of the Jewish government or courts afterwards when they basically gave her family the finger.
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no no, you said "About your jewish buddies: "
My Jewish buddies? You don't like Jews? Do you have any Jewish buddies? You did not say :"Your buddies in the Israeli government" which would have been pretty asinine as if I know anyone in the Israeli government, nor did you specify that one soldier, as if I knew him too
You generically says "Jews"
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09-03-2012, 01:06 PM
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Re: Video Of Muslim Crucifiction
WII, do you or do you NOT agree with what happened to those Muslims by the non Yemeni governmental group to crucify that man for 3 days?
Simple question.
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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09-07-2012, 02:27 AM
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Re: Video Of Muslim Crucifiction
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I already showed you. The crucifixions were done by an Islamic extremist group implementing SHARIA LAW.
Sorry about the delay. Business trip. San Diego. Nice town. Dude you need to wiki this if necessary - Yemen is already governed under "SHARIA LAW". Has been firmly implemented for decades and decades. SO: Claiming that this is suddenly "new implementation of 'SHARIA LAW" might be a teeeny bit misleading. You then rail at me because Muslims do not stand up against extremism while posting and commenting on an article about Muslims who not only stood up but lost their lives in a particularly nasty way fighting it and what does that make you? Because you fail to either recognize or acknowledge this it leaves the general impression that you dislike them all and that is fine - but continually accusing all Muslims (including me) of being involved in and supporting these activities while failing to acknowledge that the dead WERE Muslims who were, not in words, but in actions fighting it only implies that you have a problem with Muslims in general. THAT is what makes you look anti-Muslim. When you are able to acknowledge that those dead Muslims are good people doing good and right then that impression may change.
BTW Do you agree drug dealers should be executed? Adulterers?
You do not? Because if you say you do not, then you are stating to God himself that the laws He personally penned for Moses were wrong and it is not I but Him you challenge. Who are we to question them? It is for this reason alone that I have no comment to your question. As I stated in earlier post I do not lose sleep when said laws are properly applied
I don't personally subscribe to the death penalty except in the most extreme unrepented cases of murder, even then Im still undecided and unsettled at any method of execution. I also stated before, and you read it, I find it unsettling that any innocent person should die as a result of war. These things happen in all wars. What is happening in Afghanistan is a continued war with Taliban forces.
When spies are caught, during wartime, they are generally and often executed. Yemen has been at war between Shia and Sunni for several years. As you yourself say, these things happen.
Our beliefs coincide with the beliefs of the executed ones so my personal response is a very deep anger for what happened here. Those executed were born and raised under "SHARIA LAW" also and risked / indeed lost their lives fighting the extremism that you staple to me and my peers.
If a criminal comes out with a gun instead of surrendering and is a threat to the police and innocents then yes I support the necessary actions to immediately stop that person. Do I find it unsettling that person died? Yes
Your nod to the necessary is enough. No further words needed
Same goes for the armed Taliban/Al Quada forces in Afghanistan and other areas. I find it bothersome that their deaths happened and had they surrendered so they can have a trial, their deaths would not have happened during a war. As I said, same thing happened when we fought Nazi Germany. Some gave up and others did not
So there were no German POWs eh? If any were summarily executed the way you said, that was against the geneva convention
You should polish up on the term "unlawful combatant" then come back and comment. There are rules for those in wartime fighting under uniform and rules for those in wartime for those who are fighting and not in uniform and those rules are different.
Right, that was a terrible mistake. Everyone involved admitted as much
Yep, but again these were terrible mistakes and we own up to them and investigate them to make sure they don't happen again
Yeah. Sure. Right. Noticed they accidentally droned (aka summarily executed) some pakistani military a few weeks ago. They are all over that "dont happen" thing like a Texas dust storm LOL
YOU! How? By refusing to do as I suggested and stand up AGAINST what was reported on this thread. Instead you just post stuff what Americans have done or Christians have done. When I suggested you would do better to stand up against it you became even more belligerent. You justified as "they do things different over there"
Justified? I briefed you that they execute people over there for the same reasons that we execute people over here but they used a particularly nasty way to do it. That nasty way, though distasteful, is a legal form of execution under their law. That's not justification. It is simple and factual information. No Wiki needed. Note comments above. What were those 3 (now dead) Muslims doing over there if not standing up to the extremists??
I resent it when ANYONE does...why does it have to be "jews"? How comes Jews are "My buddies" but not yours?
Once justification for the action became the policy of the state as formally noted by the government and courts the comments apply to the state as a whole. NOTE: Be regretfully informed that if you deliberately bulldoze unarmed women you dont get to be wii's buddy. LOL
no no, you said "About your jewish buddies:
Be informed that you are generically classified with the rest of the "christian right" as having unwavering support for that state and their actions. As such that makes them your buddies
My Jewish buddies? You don't like Jews? Do you have any Jewish buddies? You did not say :"Your buddies in the Israeli government" which would have been pretty asinine as if I know anyone in the Israeli government, nor did you specify that one soldier, as if I knew him too
You generically says "Jews"
Good to see you upset. Your indignation matches mine when you generically say "Muslims" and staple actions that you dislike, even actions taken against other or different Muslims who are fighting the very extremism stapled to them, to all of us.
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I think everyone knows we do things differently...isn't that WHY it's newsworthy?
It is always newsworthy when we exercise our "stand your ground" rights and summarily exercise our right to protect our homes LOL
what if we dragged every muslim out, legally, and beat them up...we can just say "well we do things differently here than you do over there"...The fact that it's done differently in one area or another is irrelevant.
You wish. LOL
So when good muslims are executed it does not upset you?
You're kidding right?
Uh, no it doesn't. This was an action NOT by the Yemeni government but by an extremist group implementing Sharia Law.
Sharia Law was implemented in Yemen decades ago. So what is that extremist group doing then?
Why do you crucify people? Was it an arbitrary decision by a secular government or is it a religious teaching of Islam? Beheadings? Amputations?
Feel free to remove your umbrella of bigotry towards all Muslims in all places away from me. You say now that somehow I and my family, over here in Texas, had something to do with this? You must be numb.
I already quoted the News source. The Yemen government never did such a thing. This was an Islamic based punishment in accordance with Shariah law
Except that Yemen is already under Shariah law. So since they are all lumped together then this IS the policy of the government right?
This is an amazing forum. We post negative stuff about Pentecostals and some people say we have an anti-Pentecostal agenda. We post stuff about Democrats and we have an anti-Democrat agenda etc etc..then WII comes along any time something is posted about Islam and we are also all anti-Muslim. LOL.
When you post an article about 3 Muslims who died fighting extremism then find a random Muslim to rail at and accuse all Muslims and Muslim beliefs of this extremism that's pretty bigoted dude. Just sayin' (LOL)
What Yemeni policy? This was NOT the actions of the Yemeni government. I already posted that information.
Yeah right. Oh yeah I remember that "conversation". lol..it never happened. What a load of camel dung WII.
Hey, why not do a search and post the link to that "conversation" where I expressed fear of some tent dwelling Yemeni blah blah blah
You know - I think I will Prax.
So in other words you won't stand up against these forms of brutal punishments or the actions of extremist groups. No of course not. That is what leads many people to believe that even the so called Moderate muslims really do support their actions. That is why threads like this continue with the presumption and all or most Muslims are the same. Why not just stand up and say "Muslims don't all agree with that kind of stuff. Most of us are Moderate and find the actions of those muslims deplorable."
I don't have to when Muslims die fighting it. Furthermore - the reason that threads like this continue with said presumptions has everything to do with those who type the words into them and their way of thinking and nothing to do with those who are being spoken about. You can choose for yourself to lump and classify groups together (be a bigot) or you can choose for yourself to acknowledge that what you wish to hear was physically summarized in the article in front of you and/or you can chose to embrace your phobia. You may not choose to place responsibility for what you say or believe on me.
You don't and it makes people really wonder and believe you support that kind of stuff. If you DO support it, then why not just post "Yes I agree with that stuff" instead of trying to turn the tables on those that post? Are you embarrassed at the behavior of Muslims in the middle east?
I really spend little time or energy worrying about what people wonder or believe Prax. Sorry.
But you can post anonymously HERE against Al Queda...actually the Muslims that, if they were really Muslims, died in such a way that WE find deplorable. And you have yet to stand up and AGREE. That is the problem. You turn everything into a blanket "anti-muslim" agenda issue when in reality I found THIS act against others deplorable whether they were Muslims or not. I find Muslim on Muslim violence as deplorable as any other but the METHOD in this situation was brutal yet you seemed to JUSTIFY it rather than agree that it was terrible.
Seemed? LOL only on "Planet Prax"
That is what I had been saying. Had you just stood and posted "I find these executions deplorable" , you would have deserved an AMEN!
My bucket list does not include a collection of "amens". I leave said collection to those who feed off of the "sheeple"
But you did not and you seemed to justify them when you lamented that the US also executes spys...nothing said about how brutal a 3 day crucifixion was from you
It's preferred because Islamic Law makes it one of the preferred methods. It's a bloody mess and if the guy doing it messes up it's rather brutal. It's done publicly and in addition these people might also often be crucified publicly for days for everyone else to see
Your point? You said yourself the guillotine was quick. Are you retracting that now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decapitation
Most of the time but again this is why most states of stopped using the chair.
You are talking about a rarity.
You havent read the "cruel and unusual" appeals have you. The descriptions are graphic. It is public information.
Right, but not any more. I also find firing squads deplorable as I do the chair as I do CRUCIFIXION for 3 days. See, you take criticisms of how Muslims execute people as anti-Muslim yet I also am against the forms of executions that have occured in the US and in Europe.,.what "anti" does that make me?
You "appear" to be anti-muslim when you rail (for DAYS geeze already) about Muslims who don't stand up to extremism while posting an article about 3 Muslims who died doing what you are railing should happen. That's kind of messed up
Yes just as it depends on how good a swing the guy is who swings the sword. I find both rather primitive.
That's not really my area and haven't put a lot of thought into it.
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Re: Video Of Muslim Crucifiction
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WII, do you or do you NOT agree with what happened to those Muslims by the non Yemeni governmental group to crucify that man for 3 days?
Simple question.
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crickets chirp chirp, he wont say it like every other supposedly moderate muslim should, i do not agree with this, just say it wii.nope cant criticize the brothers wont do it.
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Re: Video Of Muslim Crucifiction
yip yip yip
I DO hear some noise but not from crickets
I guess someone hopped off of coadie's lap and onto another. Do you have something to add to this discussion?
Here is my answer:
Notification from US Consulate Dhahran last week: http://riyadh.usembassy.gov/amcitmessages.html
Riyadh, Shawwal 8, 1433, August 26, 2012, SPA - The Security spokesman at the
Interior Ministry stated that the concerned security authorities monitored over several months
the activities of suspicious elements having contact with the deviant “Takfiri” organization
abroad, noting that it has been clear from the follow-up that these elements formed a terrorist
cell in Riyadh advertising for deviant thought, and recruiting members to carry out criminal
operations targeting security men, citizens, residents, and public facilities.
The Spokesman said, “Through the intensification of follow-up of these elements, it has become
clear that they have reached an advanced stage in the quest to achieve their goals, including the
preparation and equipping of explosives to be tested outside the city of Riyadh, which led to the
injury of one of them with burns and amputation of his fingers, as they have worked for
communicating with the deviant organization abroad in preparation for the start of their
distinctive criminal operations.
The Spokesman said that security forces have arrested a citizen heading this cell who gave
detailed information about its members, plans and equipment that have been prepared and
identities used in their communication with the deviant organization, and others who are similar
to them such as Al-Assad Alhasour, Fares Al Maarakah, Nimr Al-Jihad and Abu Jandal Al-
Yamani. He indicated that this has resulted in the arrest of six members of this cell, all of them
Yemenis, adding that investigations with these elements, have been completed and their
confessions were approved according to Sharia. Three locations, one of them is a room attached
to a mosque in the city of Riyadh, were searched and chemicals used to manufacture explosives
and booby-trapped mobiles to be used through remote detonations, documents and cash were
found and impounded, the Spokesman said.
It is also in the context of investigations based on the background of these facts, links of this cell
have been found with another cell in Jeddah. One of its elements, a Saudi national, was
arrested. He was working on the preparation and testing of chemical explosives, according to
this statements certified within the framework of Sharia. The subject is still under security
follow-up.
On the basis of (what is mentioned) above, the specialized security authorities want to summon
citizen Saleh Mohammed Abdulrahman Al-Suhaibani and citizen Ali Nasser Abdullah Al Arar
Asiri, who are in hiding, to clarify the facts of their positions. Their families have been informed
about this. As the Ministry of Interior announces the detection and thwarting of these terrorist
plots targeting the homeland and its resources, the Ministry calls on anyone who knows any
information about them to inform about them on the number (990) or to the nearest security
authority. At the same time, the Ministry warns anyone who harbors or deals with them from
falling under legal accountability.
When these men are caught, and if crucifixion is chosen for their execution, and it is public, then I will not lose a single bit of sleep over it. It was fairly earned.
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Originally Posted by canam
crickets chirp chirp, he wont say it like every other supposedly moderate muslim should, i do not agree with this, just say it wii.nope cant criticize the brothers wont do it.
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Last edited by Walks_in_islam; 09-07-2012 at 04:23 AM.
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