Things that go bump in the night.... - Page 4

RandyWayne · #31 10-02-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

"From ghoulies and ghosties and long leggedy beasties,
and things that go bump in the night,
O Lord, save us."

old English prayer

When the crypt goes creak,
And the tombstones quake.
Spooks come out for a swinging wake.
Happy haunts materialize,
And begin to vocalize.
Grim grinning ghosts come out to socialize.

Now don't close your eyes,
And don't try to hide.
Or a silly spook may sit by your side.
Shrouded in a daft disguise,
They pretend to terrorize.
Grim grinning ghosts come out to socialize.

Disney's Haunted Mansion

RevDWW · #32 10-02-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther

Inccubi
Succubi

Never heard of these???

Inc - nonhuman entities that have sexual relations with women.
Suc - nonhuman entities that have sexual relations with men.

Esther · #33 10-02-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

Inc - nonhuman entities that have sexual relations with women.
Suc - nonhuman entities that have sexual relations with men.

Thanks I didn't have time to look that up. Have heard of that, just didn't know it had a name for it.

John Atkinson · #34 10-02-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

Inc - nonhuman entities that have sexual relations with women.
Suc - nonhuman entities that have sexual relations with men.

What about the gay ones?
lesbucus??? Twinkubus?

Aquila · #35 10-02-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by John Atkinson

Devils - Fallen agel
Lilith - Jewish Legend
Demons - See #1
Inccubi - Probably legen
Succubi - See #4
Unclean Spirits See #1
Possession - Yep happens, seen it personal
Ghosts - Don't have a real good answer but might be attributed to Items 1,3 and 6 having a gas mind-twisting stupid humans.
Haunting - yes. See # 8
Witches - Wide variety therof, from loopy wiccans to Bruja's who you really don't want to cross...
Vampires - pop culture fascination except for the real human ones who drink blood and pretend they are the real deal.
Death - Happens to the best of is. Good thing we have an out

You all forgot Faerie, the Sidhe. Probably 1,3 and 6 again. Those guys really get around...

UFO's anyone, any Alien abductees here?

Praise the Lord Bro. Atkinson!

I agree, Devils and Demons are fallen spirits. However “Unclean Spirits” in my experience aren’t fallen angels. Fallen angels are extremely intelligent and diabolical. Fallen angels typically thwart God’s plans; spawn heresies and false religions, and influence regions or entire nations. They, like Satan, are wiser than Daniel. But Unclean Spirits are often very stupid. For example, when casting out a Fallen Angel they will play mind games and challenge your faith. Unclean Spirits are often a circus. You might be casting an unclean spirit out of a person and demand to know if it is still residing. At that point the unclean spirit will speak through the person and say something like, “We’re no longer here!” Of course that means they are still present. Fallen Angels always appear to have a diabolical agenda afoot. Unclean Spirits are only out for personal satisfaction and riotous behavior through human beings. Many Unclean Spirits can’t read, or even speak proper English. It’s almost like dealing with a mentally impaired spiritual being. While Fallen Angels are diabolical and methodological Unclean Spirits often act insane and irrational when provoked. So I see a difference based on my experience with them.

After encountering unclean spirits I began to seek out why they are limited in knowledge, irrational, often stupid, and erratic while devils aren’t. I found something in Genesis 6 that I personally have come to believe. Genesis 6 describes a period of time prior to the flood in which “sons of God” (bene-ha-elohim, or “divine beings”) choose wives from the daughters of men. In the book of Job and in the Psalms angels are referred to as “the sons of God”. Please note, this is from the Hebrew. Many Christians equate it with the phrase “sons of God” from the New Testament indicating the righteous…but the Greek phrase used isn’t the equivalent of that used in the Hebrew and therefore they are not the same. These “sons of God” (angels) took the daughters of men to wife. Most likely these seemed peaceful and benevolent at the time, but soon their children (who were the Nephilim, or “giants”) began to fill the earth with violence. These half human/half demon spawn were violent, irrational, and no doubt lacking intellect. The violence and wickedness that filled the earth was of such a high degree to warrant God sending the flood to destroy every living thing. At this point the fallen angels that left their first estate and cohabitated with the daughters of men were bound by chains of darkness and will remain there until the return of Christ. However their offspring, the Nephilim, were drowned in the flood. There spirits were left to roam the earthly plane. This is because it is appointed unto man once to die and then the judgment. However, these beings weren’t exactly human. Also, they aren’t entirely angel, so they were not bound. Being human/demon spawn their spirits were left to roam. Now, remember, these had bodies but since their death they are bodiless. They have an insatiable hunger for sin, violence, and vice. The only way they can live out their desires and satisfy this thirst is to possess a human host. When an unclean spirit finds a man sinning or doing what that spirit desires that spirit will attempt to take up residency in that man to experience said sin. From there the spirit will attempt to drive the man deeper and deeper into sin and vice to satisfy its hunger. Meanwhile… it’s destroying its human host. When the host dies or the unclean spirit is cast out, it will roam the “dry places” seeking to quench its thirst again. If cast out and it returns to a man and finds a way back in, it will bring seven more unclean spirits worse than itself in to increase the chances of it not being cast out again.

There are two ways to deal with an unclean spirit. You can consecrate yourself, fast, pray, and pursue the things of God. In time this will weaken and frustrate the unclean spirit, and then you can pray through and be completely delivered. Or a saint of God can fast and pray and cast it out through the authority given by Christ Jesus. Fasting empties one’s self of self will and denies the flesh allowing one to “power up” in the Holy Ghost (for lack of a better term). When a saint or elder has been properly fasting and praying they are like a sponge that has absorbed the anointing and power of the Holy Ghost, making them a formidable weapon against evil spirits.

As for “ghosts”, I believe that it’s appointed unto men once to die and then the judgment. The judgment hasn’t occurred yet. So what happens in the interim is entirely God’s prerogative and operates in the economy of the spirit realm. I believe it’s possible for some souls to linger on earth and not pass on, especially if they are not saved and if they have deep emotional connections or personal reasons for lingering. I believe that prayer and consecration of a “haunted” location can aid them in accepting death and moving on to their place of rest until the judgment.

I’d vote that vampires are merely popular folk legends.

Aquila · #36 10-02-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

What about Bigfoot? Thats the really important question!

Bigfoot is actually interesting. You’ll find that in most regions local folklore of indigenous tribal people speak of a creature like those seen in modern times by campers and the like. I think most photos are fabrications. Interestingly however, ancient folklore (like that among Native American Indian tribes) ascribes a more mystical tone to the “bigfoot”. Apparently shamans used to use talismans and the like to “ward off” the “bigfoot”. I think too many people have reported seeing or encountering “something” to merely dismiss it as imagination. So I’d vote that it may be a type of animal that is EXTREMELY rare and lives in the most secluded wilderness regions. Or I’d go with this second possibility…it’s an unclean spirit. This spirit manifests itself in its bestial attributes to defend wilderness area that it dwells in. This would explain why Native American Tribes treated it more like a spirit than an animal. Also I’d go as far as to say I’d wager that should one encounter a “bigfoot” they could rebuke it in the name of Jesus and it “vanish” or flee.

When it comes to UFO’s, I think it’s possible that they are alien life forms. If so, there would be serious cultural ramifications but it wouldn’t be any more significant than the Europeans landing in the New World and encountering Native American tribes, it’s just in this case we’d be the more primitive society. They’d still need Jesus. I’d like to be the first to baptize an alien! LOL Anyway, it’s possible that these too have a “spiritual” purpose. It seems like alien beings always espouse a “New Age” teaching. For this reason any information on aliens is typically found next to occult books at the book store. It’s possible that these are ancient spirits of deception manifesting them selves as technological using demonic illusion because of our more modern culture. The Vikings claimed to have encountered “spirit beings” who road on flying long ships. It seems these things appear using imagery of whatever technology is current for their day. So, as with “bigfoot” I’d wager they could be rebuked in Jesus name and would vanish or flee.

That’s just my personal opinion here.