The Apostle's Creed: - Page 5

Titus2woman · #41 05-01-2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

That is one important reason I wouldn't incorporate the Apostle's Creed into my personal devotion. After laying aside the rosary and repetitious prayer, it was very refreshing to know I could talk to God in my own words.

I do not see why it has to be an either or choice.

Pressing-On · #42 05-01-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I do not see why it has to be an either or choice.

I think a personal choice can be an either/or choice. And I think when a choice to be made is not particularly palatable to you, it ends up an either/or.

When I read the Apostle's Creed, I identify that with memories of rosaries, veils, candles, hosts, the Sign of the Cross, incense, black robes, murmured chanting and a lot of creepy superstition. Although, at the time, it didn't feel creepy and superstitious.

When I received the Holy Ghost, a new world full of God Himself opened up to me. The Apostle's Creed means nothing to me today. I don't care about reading or reciting it at all. It's just a personal choice.

Aquila · #43 05-01-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther

Why is there a debate? Doesn't anyone believe the Bible anymore?

We all believe the Bible. However, we all walk away if different interpretations based on our understanding. This is why Christianity has been a religion of theological conversation and discussion since the first century.

Titus2woman · #44 05-01-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I think a personal choice can be an either/or choice. And I think when a choice to be made is not particularly palatable to you, it ends up an either/or.

When I read the Apostle's Creed, I identify that with memories of rosaries, veils, candles, hosts, the Sign of the Cross, incense, black robes, murmured chanting and a lot of creepy superstition. Although, at the time, it didn't feel creepy and superstitious.

When I received the Holy Ghost, a new world full of God Himself opened up to me. The Apostle's Creed means nothing to me today. I don't care about reading or reciting it at all. It's just a personal choice.

I think I get it. I feel the same way about 'on fire' preaching that includes but is not limited to: screaming, sweating, bible (or pulpit) pounding, bright red faces, bulging veins, pew walking, gay skipping, etc. and feel almost nauseaous at the sight of it... and uderstand it as a trigger... so if reciting the Apostle's Creed has a bad effect on you, by all means, don't do it!

For me it brings back great memories of the loving nuns who cared for me when my mother was too ill to do it, the priest who helped me through my first bible studies, my dear mother-in-law who had such faith and has now gone on but who never forsook her Catholic roots... very comforting.

I also love to talk to God in prayer and praying in the spirit gives me a chance to pray for things that are not a part of my conscience knowing, also wonderful. For me, neither does anything to detract from the other.

Peace to you PO.

Pressing-On · #45 05-01-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I think I get it. I feel the same way about 'on fire' preaching that includes but is not limited to: screaming, sweating, bible (or pulpit) pounding, bright red faces, bulging veins, pew walking, gay skipping, etc. and feel almost nauseaous at the sight of it... and uderstand it as a trigger... so if reciting the Apostle's Creed has a bad effect on you, by all means, don't do it!

For me it brings back great memories of the loving nuns who cared for me when my mother was too ill to do it, the priest who helped me through my first bible studies, my dear mother-in-law who had such faith and has now gone on but who never forsook her Catholic roots... very comforting.

I also love to talk to God in prayer and praying in the spirit gives me a chance to pray for things that are not a part of my conscience knowing, also wonderful. For me, neither does anything to detract from the other.

Peace to you PO.

Memories, light the corners of my mind...

Yes, I get what you get - the preacher voice - ick! My daughter does a great impersonation. She can mimic just about anything or anyone. LOL! Although, she said after her braces came off she isn't able to do the weed eater sound anymore.

Peace to you as well!!

navygoat1998 · #46 05-01-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Memories, light the corners of my mind...

Yes, I get what you get - the preacher voice - ick! My daughter does a great impersonation. She can mimic just about anything or anyone. LOL! Although, she said after her braces came off she isn't able to do the weed eater sound anymore.

Peace to you as well!!

Pressing-On · #47 05-01-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by navygoat1998

He's cute. I would have to be present to see how I felt about what was going on. I wouldn't greatly encourage my child to act in this way, nor would I discourage him/her.

We used to play church when I was a Catholic. Loved the Communion part with the crackers for the Hosts. lol

When my daughter was 7 years old, at home, she prophesied of a great revival we would have one day in this country. I knew that was of God and not her. It was very powerful. Our son was 4 at the time and said, "Did I get the Holy Ghost?" Too cute. He felt something very powerful as well.

navygoat1998 · #48 05-01-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

He's cute. I would have to be present to see how I felt about what was going on. I wouldn't greatly encourage my child to act in this way, nor would I discourage him/her.

When my daughter was 7 years old, at home, she prophesied of a great revival we would have one day in this country. I knew that was of God and not her. It was very powerful. Our son was 4 at the time and said, "Did I get the Holy Ghost?" Too cute. He felt something very powerful as well.

Honestly the video disgust me in more ways than one. I have seen the Holy Ghost just swoop in on kids and move them to the point I might been a little bit jealous.

Pressing-On · #49 05-01-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Honestly the video disgust me in more ways than one. I have seen the Holy Ghost just swoop in on kids and move them to the point I might been a little bit jealous.

It doesn't disgust me, but as a parent, I would be wary of allowing him to go too far with it. You'd have to be careful not to discourage him in a way that leaves a negative impression of God with him. And, pushing him into a position that is just mimicry and not of God is also harmful. Like I said, I would have to be present to see what I felt. It's hard to tell with a video.

But, yes, when the Holy Ghost moves on a child... When my niece was 3 years old, the choir was singing a song, don't recall the lyrics, but something about the trials of life and how God is faithful, etc.

She lifts her hands with tears streaming down her face, and my sister said she was thinking, "Right, you are old enough to know what trials are all about."

The little girl gets out into the aisle and proceeds to walk to the front of the church, hands raised, crying and speaking in tongues. As she is walking, the Holy Ghost is falling on many adults and almost all of the children present. The service wasn't over until around 11:00 p.m.

When God really moves, He moves. At the touch of the Master's hand - and that is what people are seeking...not a big show. They just want God. This is the NT church to me. I wouldn't trade that for anything.

Pressing-On · #50 05-01-2013, 01:00 PM

Interesting as I just ran across this article. Looks like, to me, He hasn't been introduced to the real power - the Holy Ghost. He writes how I felt as a Catholic.

"My religion takes faith because I neither see nor hear the God whom I worship. The tenets and rituals of my Catholicism were formulated by strangers long dead and personally unknown to me."

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