Well, I just think it is weird the way that Christians ignore that birth control can cause spontaneous abortions. I never knew that the whole time I took them (3 years). Even though I was in the church at the time, I never heard anything about that. So, although I have a serious issue with people who teach things like no doctors or hell doctrines because it can harm children if the church and parents aren't very wise, some of the people condemning those who may harm children because of these doctrines will use birth control pills. I am not defending ultra-cons for extremist views...just playing a bit of devil's advocate, because I do not see anything wrong with believing that the natural route can be best sometimes and should be used probably more often than the mainstream culture teaches. On the flip-side, making it salvational is problematic.
How true. Then again there are tens of thousands of deaths EVERY YEAR due to medical mistakes! Why no thread warning about the risks of medical science?
How true. Then again there are tens of thousands of deaths EVERY YEAR due to medical mistakes! Why no thread warning about the risks of medical science?
Yes, absolutely. To some extent this is just about cultural thinking. The only time I have an issue with what people preach is if they put the fear of hell into people in order to control them. God has not given us a spirit of fear....
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"There were clots and the doctor's advice was, "We have to cut him open immediately to even try to save his life." Pastor Slack and those with him said, 'No, we'll pray." And they prayed... "
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Yes, but for the sake of the conversation, there's a big difference between an adult refusing medical care and a child being denied medical care. As an adult, if I choose to forgo medical care, even if that means I will die, that's still my choice. A child is in a more vulnerable position, and I don't believe a parent should "force faith" upon a child.
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Yes, but for the sake of the conversation, there's a big difference between an adult refusing medical care and a child being denied medical care. As an adult, if I choose to forgo medical care, even if that means I will die, that's still my choice. A child is in a more vulnerable position, and I don't believe a parent should "force faith" upon a child.
But how should these lines be drawn?
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
Yes, but for the sake of the conversation, there's a big difference between an adult refusing medical care and a child being denied medical care. As an adult, if I choose to forgo medical care, even if that means I will die, that's still my choice. A child is in a more vulnerable position, and I don't believe a parent should "force faith" upon a child.
Thanks. My thoughts also.
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I don't believe that a parent has the right to deny a child necessary life-saving medical treatment in the name of religion or faith.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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